UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "It`s not worth it anymore." But, not only does the film downplay Montgomery's role and spend a large amount of time attacking Mary, someone (I forget who it was) literally said that HER actions were WORSE than the man who KILLED someone. And happy birthday to North Carolina friend, Vernie, cancer survivor, four children, seven grands, one great. The Internet is known as a breeding ground for illicit affairs between people often hiding behind fake names and handles. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The electronic love triangle soon becomes very real when the furious rivalry ends in cold-blooded murder. But one of the men this faux Internet honeybee attracted, was more interested than most. He`s actually a balding 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, a married father of two. By all accounts, Mary Shieler was a perfect mother, one who loved and spoiled her breathtakingly beautiful teenage daughter Jessi. The two were in love with the same cyber entity, an 18 year old blonde girl named Jessi, who had the handle "talhotblond" on a video game chat room. And this is what they`re saying to each other before it all blows up in murder. I think these were average people who had boring lives and holes in their souls, and they needed something to make them feel special. Another world-class liar hit the web. No laws exist against what she did. Brian Barrett. Don`t see them. Mary Shieler didn't come away unscathed. Earlier I think it was John who said that he thought that these people were insane and Looney Tunes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don`t go creeping up on me like that, Carol. Discover short videos related to mary shieler on TikTok. Is this for real? I guess it kinda makes sense for the Montgomery's attourney to go after Shieler but holy hell how does the show allow that kind of bigotry and idiocy?! NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. This is actually her daughter she`s using photos of, Pete Odom. RPG M . After Jessi got Carol Montgomery's letter, she broke up with Thomas. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Montgomery`s wife Cindy (ph) discovers her husband`s terrible secret. "), there has been no legal recourse to try Shieler, who has said she plans to write a book about the dangers of the Internet. By all accounts, Mary Shieler was a perfect mother, one who loved and spoiled her breathtakingly beautiful teenage daughter Jessi. At ULU our mission is to transform traditional automotive companies into next-generation mobility service providers via the use of technology. I'll just play the game with her,' said Montgomery, whose tragic story has now been turned into a Lifetime Movie directed by 'Friends' Courtney Cox. "By breaking the fantasy and his ability to live in it, she was killing any hope he had to save himself. GRACE: I guess, Barbara, she thinks she is a hero, OK? Thomas Montgomery is played by Garret Dillahunt, seen here. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re still up? Throughout the entirety of the movie, Dr. Beaber acts in the role of a commentator on the social and psychological aspects of the case. SCHROEDER: Right. But forget that. January 2021 - August 2022. KIRBY CLEMENTS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: There you go. It`s not true." UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I will get out of your life, Tom. She: Pretended to be someone else on the Internet in order to get attention from men. I mean, that`s -- that`s really how I see this. When Montgomery found out 'talhotblond' had a new lover, Brian, a slow burn began. Montgomery says nothing sexual happened between them after Jessi "Talhotblond" found out how old he was, but their IMs tell a different story: And then the tipping point. SCHROEDER: Well, I mean, bottom line, the guy who pulled the trigger is Thomas Montgomery. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What would you do?" Is it time Harry & Meghan accept Clarkson's apology and move on? She`s a mother posing as her teen daughter on line. There`s the real Talhotblond. I want to hear about your son. And then she starts to aggressively pursue this young man. To Dr. Bethany Marshall. Daniel, have you ever considered a civil lawsuit against this woman? Owner Information. But as the investigators dig deeper, they discover that the killer isn't the only one who pretended to be someone he's not. We collect and match historical records that Ancestry users have contributed to their family trees to create each person's profile. It is the first full-length film she has directed. MARINESNIPER1000: After what I read, you don`t give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) about me or your Tommy. But when police arrived at her home, they were in for another surprise: A woman named Mary Shieler opened the door. Brian Barrett was a handsome 22 year-old, the only one in this sordid tale who was telling the truth. In March 2006, Montgomery told "20/20" one of his daughters was using his computer when Jessi happened to instant message him. Mary's relationship status is married. As police questioned Mary Shieler, she revealed a shocking truth: She was the one who had been sending messages to Thomas Montgomery and Brian Barrett, under the handle: "Talhotblond." When 18-year-old Talhotblond started instant-messaging him, he decided to pretend he was 18 too. HolySmoke truly believes in allowing our users to express themselves without any interference or regulation. 304-574-1131. He`s doing what millions of men are doing. And when they knocked on the door and I opened the door, I knew something was bad. You know what? Watch on: Netflix US, Canada, Australia, and more. Giving himself the moniker 'MarineSniper', Montgomery told 'Jessi' that he was a young, handsome Iraq-bound Marine, while she claimed to be a softball-playing high school senior from West Virignia. Summary: The Fear of 13 tells the story of death-row inmate Nick Yarris, who educated himself during the 21 years he . So this story ends with one man dead, one in prison, and one mother who was never charged with a crime. And she`s actually a 45-year-old secretary and a mother posing as her teen daughter on line. If you think you`re talking to an underager, if you`re an adult and you think you`re talking to an underage girl, you`re a weirdo. And this on-line love affair continues. GRACE: Let`s see Odom and Clements, please, Peter Odom and Kirby Clements. She was actually a 45-year-old part-time secretary with a teen daughter. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why are you saying that?" Learn About Thomas Montgomery Documentary - Talhotblond Talhotblond is a 2009 documentary that apprehends an Internet love triangle story that resulted in a real-life murder. Jessi wrote to Montgomery to tell him she was breaking up notes when she got Cindys message. And that's more or less what her role in the murder was---causing jealousy. "And on his way back, he was saying, 'I'm going right past your house. Emma Raducanu Parents: Who are they, Are they divorced? With me, John Lucich, criminal investigator, president of E Forensics. Aug. 27, 2011 -- The Internet is known as a breeding ground for illicit affairs between people often hiding behind fake names and handles. He told none of that to "Talhotblond," the 18-year-old he met in a Pogo chat room. How do we create a person's profile? CLEMENTS: It should have been -- his emotional state was such that it wouldn`t be murder. Detectives in California learned he was "recently employed at the Washington County Sheriff's Office in the state of Virginia." "It is shocking and sad to the entire law enforcement community that such an evil and wicked person could infiltrate . This (EXPLETIVE DELETED) loser is leaving on Saturday. John, so you`ve got a 46-year-old man, a 45-year- old woman. The teen daughter doesn`t know anything about it. Montgomery pleaded guilty to Barrett's murder and was sentenced to 20-years. GRACE: Everyone, let`s stop and remember Army 1st Lieutenant Jared Southworth, 26, Oakland, Illinois, killed, Afghanistan. As police questioned her, she revealed a shocking truth: She was the one who had been sending messages to Montgomery and Barrett under the handle Talhotblond. She says, look, I want you to pretend to be Tommy again, and had she stopped playing her game at any point in time, Brian Barrett would still be alive today. The reality is, the victim in this case is a young man, Brian Barrett, just 22 years old, a co-worker of the suspect, shot three times in the neck, jaw, and arm close range by a rifle, a high-powered rifle. He portrayed two characters on the acclaimed HBO series "Deadwood": Jack McCall and Francis Wolcott. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "That is up to you, Jessi. Thomas Montgomery was in a sexless marriage and a dead end job. But all of the defense that was aimed at Montgomery would have been much more appropriate to aim at Shieler. When the police apprehended Montgomery for the murder of Barrett they built up a strong case against him having found his DNA at the crime scene and a family photo which showed the gun used to shoot the 22-year-old. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "So it`s time for Tommy to be put to rest." Talhotblond who professes to be a beautiful young teen girl, she`s actually a 45-year-old secretary, and she`s using her teen daughter`s photos to lure this kid online. He is a balding 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, a married father of two. "marinesniper" had tricked her by pretending to be younger. Now, John Phillips, these two adults, a 45-year-old and a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, they don`t care that they`re playing a teen? BARRETT: Oh, yes. In 2005, a jealous 46 year old machinist and Sunday School teacher named Thomas Montgomery killed a younger coworker, Brian Barrett. Was there any way to have saved the victim in this case, Brian Barrett? Here Seeley arrives for the LA Times Presents Rock/Style 2012 Event at Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel on June 6, 2012 in Hollywood, California. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Telling her what had happened and how they desperately needed to speak to Jessi, Shieler broke down in a wail of tears and confessed her whole elaborate deception of Montgomery and Barrett. Mary Shieler (Shieler) https://t.co/svAoG3ejb4 Morbid: A True Crime Podcast (@AMorbidPodcast) November 22, 2021 There is a striking resemblance between the profile image and the handle detail of a lovely girl who was 18 years old and played both basketball and softball. Before long, Jessi was sending Brian her photos and the two had become a cyberitem. Susan Schmid Bronx Zoo - Sue The Bird Lady, Why You Should Stop Sharing "No Mercy in Mexico" Video, Where Is Beth Thomass Brother Now In 2022. Schroeder includes several of the thousands of IMs that revealed the love, lust and scorn among the three in her film. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I ache to be with Tommy. 2023 ABC News Internet Ventures. Peter Odom, Kirby Clements PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy. 'Marinesnipper' Meets 'Talhotblonde'. You know, she`s probably a nice-looking girl. Thomas' coworker, Brian Barrett, a handsome man of 22. You`ve been hogging it practically every night for the last month. GRACE: Joining me right now is a special guest. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Calls herself a beautiful 18-year-old blonde. The worst things that Mary did are that she used her own daughter's identity (which is arguably shittier than if she had stolen a stranger's pictures to use, and obviously damaging to her relationship with her daughter), took shady pictures of her daughter without her knowledge (creepy and violating), and perhaps one could argue that she should have contacted the police over the threats that Montgomery was making (but even so, people make threats online all the time and most of the time people don't take them seriously because most of the time they aren't serious). Jessie Pray and Andie Cassette team up each week to tell stories of love and relationships gone fatally wrong. In 2008, Missouri mother Lori Drew was initially convicted of three misdemeanor counts of computer fraud for posing as a teenage boy to send harsh messages, including one that said "the world would be a better place without you," to a 13-year-old girl named Megan Meier, who then committed suicide. TALHOTBLONDBIG50: Life was so much better when you were my Tommy. The kid turns out to be a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, father of two. It`s actually laughable until this on-line teen love affair comes to a tragic end. We are taking your calls. The exchange of gifts between the pair continued as did love letters. Many of the creepy twists and turns of the story I will pass over, but they are the subject of a documentary and a recent article by a Larry Getlen in The Daily Beast. GRACE: Well, wait, wait, wait! However, what Jessi, whose online name was Tallhotblonde, didn't know was that her 'sweet sexy Marine' was actually a 46-year-old married father of two from Clarence, in upstate New York. MARINESNIPER1000: It`s too late, Jessi. Why they`re not looking at her GRACE: She knew that they PETER ODOM: is just amazing to me. And on weekends, him and his best buddy, Joe, would get together and do what 22-year-olds do in western New York, find a place that serves chicken wings and maybe a beer and a pool table. Passed away after a short illness. I`ve done too much damage to be undone now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "You told him I`m a loser and predator." WHOA PLOT TWIST OMG. Horrified, 'Jessi' sent Montgomery a text message ending the affair. "At three in the morning," Capt. And this young cadet here? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I panicked. His messages became increasingly violent, as he was forced to watch their romance blossom in the same chat rooms he used to frequent with Jessi. GRACE: Yes. Her photos and identity were actually being used by none other than her own mother, 45 year old Mary Shieler. The family budget was tight, but Jessi was going to two proms, her own, and her boyfriend's. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I checked out her bio. GRACE: OK. But how does the young 22-year-old, the real kid in this picture, the 22-year-old Brian Barrett, who ends up dead, how does he get into the love triangle? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); HolySmoke provides a reviewer toolkit, platform, and communication setup for consumers, concerned citizens and bloggers to collaborate, investigate and publish in-depth reviews and analyses without the risk of any retribution. That`s why they`re constantly online with each other. We are taking your calls. Concerned about the appearance of an older man mingling online with minors, Montgomery told talhotblond that he was on his father's accountand that he was really a buff, 18-year-old Marine named Tommy. Now that's FUBAR. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, e-mails, surfing, the usual. I`m not a yo-yo for you to play with. He`ll say, leave me alone. "For the entire year and a half they communicated, he exhibited rage issues, and she continued to egg him on.". Montgomery, using the handle "marinesniper," sent talhotblonda lithe, fresh-faced 18-year-old West Virginia girl named Jessia 30-year-old picture of himself in military dress. After all, he never intended to actually meet the girl. They`re playing some sort of game on line, and neither one knew that they were playing the other person. Daniel, I`m just sick hearing these facts. His son murdered in this Internet love triangle. Don't get along with your Mom? The pictures she sent Montgomery were actually those of her daughter, the real Jessi, who had no knowledge of her mother's cyberlife. Loved baseball, kayaking, his small town church, leaves behind parents, Bob and Kim, brother, Michael, sister, Nikki. DR. MICHELLE DUPREE, MEDICAL EXAMINER, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Nancy, that`s a good question, but the thing is with a high-powered rifle it`s that amount of kinetic energy that`s displaced into the body when that rifle goes off. This is the photo he used on line. "Talhotblond's" instant messages revealed that her real name was Jessi, a softball-playing high school senior from West Virginia. GRACE: Well, you`re accurate about that. Mary, a master of internet deception featured on the show earlier this . UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why not?" He is moving to West Virginia to be with the love of his life.". And there might be something very creative but the law here just didn`t allow for it, and that`s what`s so sad. At least, you were supposed to be. GRACE: Unleash the lawyers, Eleanor Odom, Kirby Clements, Peter Odom, defense attorney joining us out of Atlanta. Get in Touch. And, you know, imagine that moment when you`re handed a photo of the girl that you just killed a man over. She flirted online with Barrett, who called himself 'beefcake', on open forums for Montgomery to see. 14K 1.6MM SOLID ROUND BOX CHAIN. They went so far as to label Montgomery a liar and a paedophile, saying that he was not the man he presented himself to be. Only much later did it emerge that she was really a middle-aged woman named Mary Shieler. GRACE: worked together. Montgomery and Shieler were both lonely people who reached their mid-forties with their best days behind them, who then created deadly deceptions in the hopes of recapturing the glory of youth, and of finding real intimacy by fervently denying their true selves. In 2005 Seeley co-wrote "Getcha Head in the Game" for the "High School Musical" soundtrack. ELEANOR ODOM: I think so, Nancy. And I think that`s how she was able to correspond with him, too. We used to call it "starting stuff." GRACE: Freaks. Many tasks have been easier to complete as a result of the development of the internet and various social media platforms; nevertheless, this has also led to an increase in the number of crimes committed. Mary Shieler was born on 07/11/1961 and is 61 years old. That`s Tallhotblond. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. GRACE: Kirby. Afterwards, he explained that the relationship "became more real to me than real life.". However it was 45 yo Mary Shieler, who was posing as her daughter online abcnews.go.com/2020/m. He`s truly a young man. A West Virginia senior in high school, a softball player, calls herself Tallhotblond on line, takes to the Internet to strike up a romance in a teen chat room with Marinesniper, a handsome 18-year-old set to deploy to Iraq. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "My heart will exist no more after Saturday, so I will forgive with an e-mail. We're told Jessi doesn't speak to Mary anymore.Mother's day must be a killer holiday for Jessi. "Tallhotblond," told Brian that Thomas A.K.A. Eleanor Odom, their fantasy life may not have been real, but this murder is real, a 22-year-old young man, a fine young man. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "You might get the magic." A West Virginia senior in high school, a softball player -- she calls herself Tallhotblond on line -- takes to the Internet. Nancy Grunenberg, sister, Don Grunenberg, brother-in-law. It won`t kill you. "She sends me a text message and says, she hates me you should be put in jail for this," he told "20/20.". Why are you saying that?" Given that there were no specific laws to address what Drew had done, prosecutors based their case on Drew having violated MySpace's terms of service. So -- SCHROEDER: Incredible excuse. "I couldn't just, just end it.". So I sent in a guy with my questions and he set up a great interview with him and he -- it was kind of like a buddy-buddy interview and he came forth with all kinds of information, including the fact that he was impotent, which was a huge fact in this case, because not only did this teenager -- GRACE: Did you just say impotent? That`s where she belongs, and that`s one of the reasons why we`re on the phone talking, is because I just feel it needs to change. To 18 years old. What`s your question? Then she made a startling confession. He told "20/20" that this relationship "became more real to me than real life.". do frozen strawberries have bugs; top 10 strongest dinosaurs in dinosaur king; why did michael gallant leave er P. ODOM: The question, Nancy, you come to me? PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, I can`t believe you`re even asking that question. And I agree with Eleanor. He`s a pathetic person. And in this stack of instant messages, over a dozen times Montgomery begs her. | It can be changed, though, to allow for it in the future. How did Talhotblond, the, what, 50-year-old woman posing as a teen -- how did she know the details of Montgomery and Brian Barrett`s work life? Let`s listen to what these two are texting and writing and saying to each other on phone conversations. It`s Barbara Schroeder. He never thought they would meet, but their relationship turned romantic. His posts apparently exhibited some troubling rage issues and he expressed the desire to slide all the snake slowly into his lady. (His Sunday School pupils will likely need some therapy after this). Which makes it all the more difficult to understand the evil this mother was secretly unleashing into cyberspace. We know all about getting text messages, but how do police go back and obtain, for instance, chat room transcripts? I mean, my wife and I were sick and literally I think almost throwing up in the beginning when we found out about it. GRACE: We are taking your calls. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I didn`t." I mean, there might be some argument to be made that she should be charged with something because of the role she played, but whatever charge you could come up with, it still wouldn't be WORSE than actually shooting and killing someone. Netflix description: This true-crime documentary follows a cyberspace love triangle that ended up sending one member to prison and another to the grave. They each. He`s a 46-year-old balding Sunday school teacher, father of two. The cyber-sex was just too hot to resist. That`s him. And in the real world -- GRACE: Bethany, I think -- P. ODOM: -- these things can lead to tragedy. Brain thought "talhotblond' was really a teenager too, and was quickly entangled in Mary's web. Why? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She said, hey, cowboy, how are you doing? It`s your choice." Montgomery had been posing as a 20 year old marine combat veteran. "He was my height, 6 feet tall, had bright red hair," said Montgomery, "big shoulders, muscles and all that. They should both stew in the same pot together, Peter Odom! Jessi has not yet moved on from this, despite the fact that Mary Shieler is already divorced and may be planning to continue living in the same location. She is not tall, hot, blond. 'He was my height, six-feet tall, had bright red hair,' said Montgomery to ABC News. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What did you say to him?" Together, Brian and "Jessi" bean to expose Thomas' in the chatrooms they had . You know what? Thomas Montgomery was a married 46-year old father of two, who entered a chat room on the popular game site "Pogo" with the screen name: "MarineSniper.". Other relatives in Fayetteville, WV area. And she`s not, either. That was an hour ago. Once the whole story is told, they then start attacking Mary Shieler, Jessi's mom. Mary wanted only the best for her little girl. "She sends me a message and says, she hates me you should be put in jail for this.". TALHOTBLONDBIG50: I know. What is that? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The affair abruptly ends in a hail of gunfire. And my daughter Alexa loves you, too, and we love the twins. SCHROEDER: Yes, that`s where Thomas Montgomery started playing his game. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. SCHROEDER: When you`re in a game room like a pogo.com, and you`re talking to people, you can also pull to a little side table, and your little avatar can actually go to the side and you can have a private chat to talk one-on-one which is -- GRACE: You mean the fake people talk to other fake people? They`re out there, they`re anonymous, they`re living out their fantasies, they`re doing what they think is safe. That`s a whole another can of worms. I don`t care what you meant to do. Pretended to be someone else on the Internet in order to get attention from men. You might get the magic." CASAREZ: Good question. The point-blank shooting of a 22-year-old young man. "He was enraged," said former prosecutor Ken Case. [ ] . Intrigued by the flirtatious nature of the messages and the beautiful profile pic the girl called 'Jessi' had, Montgomery decided to use the anonymity of the Internet and message her back pretending to be 18 too. Jessi, meanwhile, seemed to feed off Montgomery's aggression. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The vengeful girl turns to one of his much younger co-workers on line. Austin Lee Edwards, 28, of North Chesterfield, Virginia. Follow him on Twitter. Mostly, Mary struck me as a bored, attention-seeking person. She was wrong for trying to instigate drama. The Lifetime movie "Talhotblond" is directed by "Cougartown" and "Friends" star Courteney Cox. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) GRACE: Welcome back. On television, San Giacomo received a Golden Globe nomination for her performance as Maya Gallo on the hit comedy series "Just Shoot Me.". Remember, the Sunday school teacher, the father of two? Mary Shieler Biography It looks like we don't have any Biography for Mary Shieler yet. PHOTOS: Talhotblond in Hollywood: Who Plays Who in Blood-Soaked Online Love Triangle. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What would you do?" That`s one thought, that this -- these two posers were creating a fantasy in their mind that was more compelling than the reality of their everyday lives. "That it would end, fall off and that would be the end of it.". She sent Montgomery photos that lived up to her screen name and then some. Jessi and "Tommy" exchanged gifts, phone calls and love letters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, look who`s talking. Then read this story, it might suddenly make your mom look like Mother of the Year. Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? And when they couldn't find Thomas Montgomery, they feared they knew just where he was headed. MARINESNIPER1000: It`s too late, Jessi. He is a 46-year-old balding father of two Sunday school teacher. They made their relationship between them known. She was a fucked up individual looking for excitement, just like Montgomery, only she didn't go out and murder someone. Sometimes I look in the mirror and I feel -- it just didn`t turn out. Eventually, Barrett decided to visit 'Jessi' even though Shieler had warned him not to. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How would I know? ELEANOR ODOM: would have a lot -- yes, Dr. Bethany would have a lot to say about that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love you, too. GRACE: And the reality is neither of these men had ever met her. It was her-dumpy 45-year-old housewife Mary Shieler-who used sexy photos of her own daughter to seduce both men, including having cybersex with them using her daughter's name and image, and. It should have never happened. Upon questioning her, they discovered that Jessi was in fact her daughter and the pictures and underwear she had been sending belonged to her 18-year-old.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "It`s not worth it anymore." But, not only does the film downplay Montgomery's role and spend a large amount of time attacking Mary, someone (I forget who it was) literally said that HER actions were WORSE than the man who KILLED someone. And happy birthday to North Carolina friend, Vernie, cancer survivor, four children, seven grands, one great. The Internet is known as a breeding ground for illicit affairs between people often hiding behind fake names and handles. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The electronic love triangle soon becomes very real when the furious rivalry ends in cold-blooded murder. But one of the men this faux Internet honeybee attracted, was more interested than most. He`s actually a balding 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, a married father of two. By all accounts, Mary Shieler was a perfect mother, one who loved and spoiled her breathtakingly beautiful teenage daughter Jessi. The two were in love with the same cyber entity, an 18 year old blonde girl named Jessi, who had the handle "talhotblond" on a video game chat room. And this is what they`re saying to each other before it all blows up in murder. I think these were average people who had boring lives and holes in their souls, and they needed something to make them feel special. Another world-class liar hit the web. No laws exist against what she did. Brian Barrett. Don`t see them. Mary Shieler didn't come away unscathed. Earlier I think it was John who said that he thought that these people were insane and Looney Tunes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don`t go creeping up on me like that, Carol. Discover short videos related to mary shieler on TikTok. Is this for real? I guess it kinda makes sense for the Montgomery's attourney to go after Shieler but holy hell how does the show allow that kind of bigotry and idiocy?! NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. This is actually her daughter she`s using photos of, Pete Odom. RPG M . After Jessi got Carol Montgomery's letter, she broke up with Thomas. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Montgomery`s wife Cindy (ph) discovers her husband`s terrible secret. "), there has been no legal recourse to try Shieler, who has said she plans to write a book about the dangers of the Internet. By all accounts, Mary Shieler was a perfect mother, one who loved and spoiled her breathtakingly beautiful teenage daughter Jessi. At ULU our mission is to transform traditional automotive companies into next-generation mobility service providers via the use of technology. I'll just play the game with her,' said Montgomery, whose tragic story has now been turned into a Lifetime Movie directed by 'Friends' Courtney Cox. "By breaking the fantasy and his ability to live in it, she was killing any hope he had to save himself. GRACE: I guess, Barbara, she thinks she is a hero, OK? Thomas Montgomery is played by Garret Dillahunt, seen here. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re still up? Throughout the entirety of the movie, Dr. Beaber acts in the role of a commentator on the social and psychological aspects of the case. SCHROEDER: Right. But forget that. January 2021 - August 2022. KIRBY CLEMENTS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: There you go. It`s not true." UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I will get out of your life, Tom. She: Pretended to be someone else on the Internet in order to get attention from men. I mean, that`s -- that`s really how I see this. When Montgomery found out 'talhotblond' had a new lover, Brian, a slow burn began. Montgomery says nothing sexual happened between them after Jessi "Talhotblond" found out how old he was, but their IMs tell a different story: And then the tipping point. SCHROEDER: Well, I mean, bottom line, the guy who pulled the trigger is Thomas Montgomery. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What would you do?" Is it time Harry & Meghan accept Clarkson's apology and move on? She`s a mother posing as her teen daughter on line. There`s the real Talhotblond. I want to hear about your son. And then she starts to aggressively pursue this young man. To Dr. Bethany Marshall. Daniel, have you ever considered a civil lawsuit against this woman? Owner Information. But as the investigators dig deeper, they discover that the killer isn't the only one who pretended to be someone he's not. We collect and match historical records that Ancestry users have contributed to their family trees to create each person's profile. It is the first full-length film she has directed. MARINESNIPER1000: After what I read, you don`t give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) about me or your Tommy. But when police arrived at her home, they were in for another surprise: A woman named Mary Shieler opened the door. Brian Barrett was a handsome 22 year-old, the only one in this sordid tale who was telling the truth. In March 2006, Montgomery told "20/20" one of his daughters was using his computer when Jessi happened to instant message him. Mary's relationship status is married. As police questioned Mary Shieler, she revealed a shocking truth: She was the one who had been sending messages to Thomas Montgomery and Brian Barrett, under the handle: "Talhotblond." When 18-year-old Talhotblond started instant-messaging him, he decided to pretend he was 18 too. HolySmoke truly believes in allowing our users to express themselves without any interference or regulation. 304-574-1131. He`s doing what millions of men are doing. And when they knocked on the door and I opened the door, I knew something was bad. You know what? Watch on: Netflix US, Canada, Australia, and more. Giving himself the moniker 'MarineSniper', Montgomery told 'Jessi' that he was a young, handsome Iraq-bound Marine, while she claimed to be a softball-playing high school senior from West Virignia. Summary: The Fear of 13 tells the story of death-row inmate Nick Yarris, who educated himself during the 21 years he . So this story ends with one man dead, one in prison, and one mother who was never charged with a crime. And she`s actually a 45-year-old secretary and a mother posing as her teen daughter on line. If you think you`re talking to an underager, if you`re an adult and you think you`re talking to an underage girl, you`re a weirdo. And this on-line love affair continues. GRACE: Let`s see Odom and Clements, please, Peter Odom and Kirby Clements. She was actually a 45-year-old part-time secretary with a teen daughter. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why are you saying that?" Learn About Thomas Montgomery Documentary - Talhotblond Talhotblond is a 2009 documentary that apprehends an Internet love triangle story that resulted in a real-life murder. Jessi wrote to Montgomery to tell him she was breaking up notes when she got Cindys message. And that's more or less what her role in the murder was---causing jealousy. "And on his way back, he was saying, 'I'm going right past your house. Emma Raducanu Parents: Who are they, Are they divorced? With me, John Lucich, criminal investigator, president of E Forensics. Aug. 27, 2011 -- The Internet is known as a breeding ground for illicit affairs between people often hiding behind fake names and handles. He told none of that to "Talhotblond," the 18-year-old he met in a Pogo chat room. How do we create a person's profile? CLEMENTS: It should have been -- his emotional state was such that it wouldn`t be murder. Detectives in California learned he was "recently employed at the Washington County Sheriff's Office in the state of Virginia." "It is shocking and sad to the entire law enforcement community that such an evil and wicked person could infiltrate . This (EXPLETIVE DELETED) loser is leaving on Saturday. John, so you`ve got a 46-year-old man, a 45-year- old woman. The teen daughter doesn`t know anything about it. Montgomery pleaded guilty to Barrett's murder and was sentenced to 20-years. GRACE: Everyone, let`s stop and remember Army 1st Lieutenant Jared Southworth, 26, Oakland, Illinois, killed, Afghanistan. As police questioned her, she revealed a shocking truth: She was the one who had been sending messages to Montgomery and Barrett under the handle Talhotblond. She says, look, I want you to pretend to be Tommy again, and had she stopped playing her game at any point in time, Brian Barrett would still be alive today. The reality is, the victim in this case is a young man, Brian Barrett, just 22 years old, a co-worker of the suspect, shot three times in the neck, jaw, and arm close range by a rifle, a high-powered rifle. He portrayed two characters on the acclaimed HBO series "Deadwood": Jack McCall and Francis Wolcott. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "That is up to you, Jessi. Thomas Montgomery was in a sexless marriage and a dead end job. But all of the defense that was aimed at Montgomery would have been much more appropriate to aim at Shieler. When the police apprehended Montgomery for the murder of Barrett they built up a strong case against him having found his DNA at the crime scene and a family photo which showed the gun used to shoot the 22-year-old. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "So it`s time for Tommy to be put to rest." Talhotblond who professes to be a beautiful young teen girl, she`s actually a 45-year-old secretary, and she`s using her teen daughter`s photos to lure this kid online. He is a balding 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, a married father of two. "marinesniper" had tricked her by pretending to be younger. Now, John Phillips, these two adults, a 45-year-old and a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, they don`t care that they`re playing a teen? BARRETT: Oh, yes. In 2005, a jealous 46 year old machinist and Sunday School teacher named Thomas Montgomery killed a younger coworker, Brian Barrett. Was there any way to have saved the victim in this case, Brian Barrett? Here Seeley arrives for the LA Times Presents Rock/Style 2012 Event at Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel on June 6, 2012 in Hollywood, California. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Telling her what had happened and how they desperately needed to speak to Jessi, Shieler broke down in a wail of tears and confessed her whole elaborate deception of Montgomery and Barrett. Mary Shieler (Shieler) https://t.co/svAoG3ejb4 Morbid: A True Crime Podcast (@AMorbidPodcast) November 22, 2021 There is a striking resemblance between the profile image and the handle detail of a lovely girl who was 18 years old and played both basketball and softball. Before long, Jessi was sending Brian her photos and the two had become a cyberitem. Susan Schmid Bronx Zoo - Sue The Bird Lady, Why You Should Stop Sharing "No Mercy in Mexico" Video, Where Is Beth Thomass Brother Now In 2022. Schroeder includes several of the thousands of IMs that revealed the love, lust and scorn among the three in her film. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I ache to be with Tommy. 2023 ABC News Internet Ventures. Peter Odom, Kirby Clements PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy. 'Marinesnipper' Meets 'Talhotblonde'. You know, she`s probably a nice-looking girl. Thomas' coworker, Brian Barrett, a handsome man of 22. You`ve been hogging it practically every night for the last month. GRACE: Joining me right now is a special guest. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Calls herself a beautiful 18-year-old blonde. The worst things that Mary did are that she used her own daughter's identity (which is arguably shittier than if she had stolen a stranger's pictures to use, and obviously damaging to her relationship with her daughter), took shady pictures of her daughter without her knowledge (creepy and violating), and perhaps one could argue that she should have contacted the police over the threats that Montgomery was making (but even so, people make threats online all the time and most of the time people don't take them seriously because most of the time they aren't serious). Jessie Pray and Andie Cassette team up each week to tell stories of love and relationships gone fatally wrong. In 2008, Missouri mother Lori Drew was initially convicted of three misdemeanor counts of computer fraud for posing as a teenage boy to send harsh messages, including one that said "the world would be a better place without you," to a 13-year-old girl named Megan Meier, who then committed suicide. TALHOTBLONDBIG50: Life was so much better when you were my Tommy. The kid turns out to be a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, father of two. It`s actually laughable until this on-line teen love affair comes to a tragic end. We are taking your calls. The exchange of gifts between the pair continued as did love letters. Many of the creepy twists and turns of the story I will pass over, but they are the subject of a documentary and a recent article by a Larry Getlen in The Daily Beast. GRACE: Well, wait, wait, wait! However, what Jessi, whose online name was Tallhotblonde, didn't know was that her 'sweet sexy Marine' was actually a 46-year-old married father of two from Clarence, in upstate New York. MARINESNIPER1000: It`s too late, Jessi. Why they`re not looking at her GRACE: She knew that they PETER ODOM: is just amazing to me. And on weekends, him and his best buddy, Joe, would get together and do what 22-year-olds do in western New York, find a place that serves chicken wings and maybe a beer and a pool table. Passed away after a short illness. I`ve done too much damage to be undone now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "You told him I`m a loser and predator." WHOA PLOT TWIST OMG. Horrified, 'Jessi' sent Montgomery a text message ending the affair. "At three in the morning," Capt. And this young cadet here? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I panicked. His messages became increasingly violent, as he was forced to watch their romance blossom in the same chat rooms he used to frequent with Jessi. GRACE: Yes. Her photos and identity were actually being used by none other than her own mother, 45 year old Mary Shieler. The family budget was tight, but Jessi was going to two proms, her own, and her boyfriend's. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I checked out her bio. GRACE: OK. But how does the young 22-year-old, the real kid in this picture, the 22-year-old Brian Barrett, who ends up dead, how does he get into the love triangle? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); HolySmoke provides a reviewer toolkit, platform, and communication setup for consumers, concerned citizens and bloggers to collaborate, investigate and publish in-depth reviews and analyses without the risk of any retribution. That`s why they`re constantly online with each other. We are taking your calls. Concerned about the appearance of an older man mingling online with minors, Montgomery told talhotblond that he was on his father's accountand that he was really a buff, 18-year-old Marine named Tommy. Now that's FUBAR. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, e-mails, surfing, the usual. I`m not a yo-yo for you to play with. He`ll say, leave me alone. "For the entire year and a half they communicated, he exhibited rage issues, and she continued to egg him on.". Montgomery, using the handle "marinesniper," sent talhotblonda lithe, fresh-faced 18-year-old West Virginia girl named Jessia 30-year-old picture of himself in military dress. After all, he never intended to actually meet the girl. They`re playing some sort of game on line, and neither one knew that they were playing the other person. Daniel, I`m just sick hearing these facts. His son murdered in this Internet love triangle. Don't get along with your Mom? The pictures she sent Montgomery were actually those of her daughter, the real Jessi, who had no knowledge of her mother's cyberlife. Loved baseball, kayaking, his small town church, leaves behind parents, Bob and Kim, brother, Michael, sister, Nikki. DR. MICHELLE DUPREE, MEDICAL EXAMINER, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Nancy, that`s a good question, but the thing is with a high-powered rifle it`s that amount of kinetic energy that`s displaced into the body when that rifle goes off. This is the photo he used on line. "Talhotblond's" instant messages revealed that her real name was Jessi, a softball-playing high school senior from West Virginia. GRACE: Well, you`re accurate about that. Mary, a master of internet deception featured on the show earlier this . UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why not?" He is moving to West Virginia to be with the love of his life.". And there might be something very creative but the law here just didn`t allow for it, and that`s what`s so sad. At least, you were supposed to be. GRACE: Unleash the lawyers, Eleanor Odom, Kirby Clements, Peter Odom, defense attorney joining us out of Atlanta. Get in Touch. And, you know, imagine that moment when you`re handed a photo of the girl that you just killed a man over. She flirted online with Barrett, who called himself 'beefcake', on open forums for Montgomery to see. 14K 1.6MM SOLID ROUND BOX CHAIN. They went so far as to label Montgomery a liar and a paedophile, saying that he was not the man he presented himself to be. Only much later did it emerge that she was really a middle-aged woman named Mary Shieler. GRACE: worked together. Montgomery and Shieler were both lonely people who reached their mid-forties with their best days behind them, who then created deadly deceptions in the hopes of recapturing the glory of youth, and of finding real intimacy by fervently denying their true selves. In 2005 Seeley co-wrote "Getcha Head in the Game" for the "High School Musical" soundtrack. ELEANOR ODOM: I think so, Nancy. And I think that`s how she was able to correspond with him, too. We used to call it "starting stuff." GRACE: Freaks. Many tasks have been easier to complete as a result of the development of the internet and various social media platforms; nevertheless, this has also led to an increase in the number of crimes committed. Mary Shieler was born on 07/11/1961 and is 61 years old. That`s Tallhotblond. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. GRACE: Kirby. Afterwards, he explained that the relationship "became more real to me than real life.". However it was 45 yo Mary Shieler, who was posing as her daughter online abcnews.go.com/2020/m. He`s truly a young man. A West Virginia senior in high school, a softball player, calls herself Tallhotblond on line, takes to the Internet to strike up a romance in a teen chat room with Marinesniper, a handsome 18-year-old set to deploy to Iraq. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "My heart will exist no more after Saturday, so I will forgive with an e-mail. We're told Jessi doesn't speak to Mary anymore.Mother's day must be a killer holiday for Jessi. "Tallhotblond," told Brian that Thomas A.K.A. Eleanor Odom, their fantasy life may not have been real, but this murder is real, a 22-year-old young man, a fine young man. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "You might get the magic." A West Virginia senior in high school, a softball player -- she calls herself Tallhotblond on line -- takes to the Internet. Nancy Grunenberg, sister, Don Grunenberg, brother-in-law. It won`t kill you. "She sends me a text message and says, she hates me you should be put in jail for this," he told "20/20.". Why are you saying that?" Given that there were no specific laws to address what Drew had done, prosecutors based their case on Drew having violated MySpace's terms of service. So -- SCHROEDER: Incredible excuse. "I couldn't just, just end it.". So I sent in a guy with my questions and he set up a great interview with him and he -- it was kind of like a buddy-buddy interview and he came forth with all kinds of information, including the fact that he was impotent, which was a huge fact in this case, because not only did this teenager -- GRACE: Did you just say impotent? That`s where she belongs, and that`s one of the reasons why we`re on the phone talking, is because I just feel it needs to change. To 18 years old. What`s your question? Then she made a startling confession. He told "20/20" that this relationship "became more real to me than real life.". do frozen strawberries have bugs; top 10 strongest dinosaurs in dinosaur king; why did michael gallant leave er P. ODOM: The question, Nancy, you come to me? PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, I can`t believe you`re even asking that question. And I agree with Eleanor. He`s a pathetic person. And in this stack of instant messages, over a dozen times Montgomery begs her. |
It can be changed, though, to allow for it in the future. How did Talhotblond, the, what, 50-year-old woman posing as a teen -- how did she know the details of Montgomery and Brian Barrett`s work life? Let`s listen to what these two are texting and writing and saying to each other on phone conversations. It`s Barbara Schroeder. He never thought they would meet, but their relationship turned romantic. His posts apparently exhibited some troubling rage issues and he expressed the desire to slide all the snake slowly into his lady. (His Sunday School pupils will likely need some therapy after this). Which makes it all the more difficult to understand the evil this mother was secretly unleashing into cyberspace. We know all about getting text messages, but how do police go back and obtain, for instance, chat room transcripts? I mean, my wife and I were sick and literally I think almost throwing up in the beginning when we found out about it. GRACE: We are taking your calls. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I didn`t." I mean, there might be some argument to be made that she should be charged with something because of the role she played, but whatever charge you could come up with, it still wouldn't be WORSE than actually shooting and killing someone. Netflix description: This true-crime documentary follows a cyberspace love triangle that ended up sending one member to prison and another to the grave. They each. He`s a 46-year-old balding Sunday school teacher, father of two. The cyber-sex was just too hot to resist. That`s him. And in the real world -- GRACE: Bethany, I think -- P. ODOM: -- these things can lead to tragedy. Brain thought "talhotblond' was really a teenager too, and was quickly entangled in Mary's web. Why? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She said, hey, cowboy, how are you doing? It`s your choice." Montgomery had been posing as a 20 year old marine combat veteran. "He was my height, 6 feet tall, had bright red hair," said Montgomery, "big shoulders, muscles and all that. They should both stew in the same pot together, Peter Odom! Jessi has not yet moved on from this, despite the fact that Mary Shieler is already divorced and may be planning to continue living in the same location. She is not tall, hot, blond. 'He was my height, six-feet tall, had bright red hair,' said Montgomery to ABC News. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What did you say to him?" Together, Brian and "Jessi" bean to expose Thomas' in the chatrooms they had . You know what? Thomas Montgomery was a married 46-year old father of two, who entered a chat room on the popular game site "Pogo" with the screen name: "MarineSniper.". Other relatives in Fayetteville, WV area. And she`s not, either. That was an hour ago. Once the whole story is told, they then start attacking Mary Shieler, Jessi's mom. Mary wanted only the best for her little girl. "She sends me a message and says, she hates me you should be put in jail for this.". TALHOTBLONDBIG50: I know. What is that? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The affair abruptly ends in a hail of gunfire. And my daughter Alexa loves you, too, and we love the twins. SCHROEDER: Yes, that`s where Thomas Montgomery started playing his game. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. SCHROEDER: When you`re in a game room like a pogo.com, and you`re talking to people, you can also pull to a little side table, and your little avatar can actually go to the side and you can have a private chat to talk one-on-one which is -- GRACE: You mean the fake people talk to other fake people? They`re out there, they`re anonymous, they`re living out their fantasies, they`re doing what they think is safe. That`s a whole another can of worms. I don`t care what you meant to do. Pretended to be someone else on the Internet in order to get attention from men. You might get the magic." CASAREZ: Good question. The point-blank shooting of a 22-year-old young man. "He was enraged," said former prosecutor Ken Case. [ ] . Intrigued by the flirtatious nature of the messages and the beautiful profile pic the girl called 'Jessi' had, Montgomery decided to use the anonymity of the Internet and message her back pretending to be 18 too. Jessi, meanwhile, seemed to feed off Montgomery's aggression. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The vengeful girl turns to one of his much younger co-workers on line. Austin Lee Edwards, 28, of North Chesterfield, Virginia. Follow him on Twitter. Mostly, Mary struck me as a bored, attention-seeking person. She was wrong for trying to instigate drama. The Lifetime movie "Talhotblond" is directed by "Cougartown" and "Friends" star Courteney Cox. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) GRACE: Welcome back. On television, San Giacomo received a Golden Globe nomination for her performance as Maya Gallo on the hit comedy series "Just Shoot Me.". Remember, the Sunday school teacher, the father of two? Mary Shieler Biography It looks like we don't have any Biography for Mary Shieler yet. PHOTOS: Talhotblond in Hollywood: Who Plays Who in Blood-Soaked Online Love Triangle. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What would you do?" That`s one thought, that this -- these two posers were creating a fantasy in their mind that was more compelling than the reality of their everyday lives. "That it would end, fall off and that would be the end of it.". She sent Montgomery photos that lived up to her screen name and then some. Jessi and "Tommy" exchanged gifts, phone calls and love letters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, look who`s talking. Then read this story, it might suddenly make your mom look like Mother of the Year. Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? And when they couldn't find Thomas Montgomery, they feared they knew just where he was headed. MARINESNIPER1000: It`s too late, Jessi. He is a 46-year-old balding father of two Sunday school teacher. They made their relationship between them known. She was a fucked up individual looking for excitement, just like Montgomery, only she didn't go out and murder someone. Sometimes I look in the mirror and I feel -- it just didn`t turn out. Eventually, Barrett decided to visit 'Jessi' even though Shieler had warned him not to. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How would I know? ELEANOR ODOM: would have a lot -- yes, Dr. Bethany would have a lot to say about that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love you, too. GRACE: And the reality is neither of these men had ever met her. It was her-dumpy 45-year-old housewife Mary Shieler-who used sexy photos of her own daughter to seduce both men, including having cybersex with them using her daughter's name and image, and. It should have never happened. Upon questioning her, they discovered that Jessi was in fact her daughter and the pictures and underwear she had been sending belonged to her 18-year-old.
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