Although I have never been a big fan of the 857 there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cartridge as it is right up their with the ubiquitous 30-06. As a result, the number of minor variations seems endless. Suitable only for short range hunting? Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. This began by adapting a Swiss design, resulting in the Patrone 88 or M/88 of 1888, an 8mm rimless "necked" cartridge (bullet diameter 8.08mm/.318 in) loaded with an 8.08mm (.318 in) 14.6 g (226 gr) round-nose bullet propelled by a single-base smokeless powder. There are lots of Mauser 98s out there at minimal cost. All known 757mm Karabiner 88s were produced by Haenel. After these claims were found insupportable, Ahlwardt was sentenced to 4 months in prison for malicious falsehood.[3][4]. If I get to the point where I'm spending more on building a sporter from an inferior design then I would just buying a new savage or building from a 98 mauser I'll have failed my goal. Any idea where I could get a 9.3x57 barrel (not too spendy!)? Apparently arsenal staff thought this D or Z marking sufficient at first, as rifle D 771 shows no other markings. Well if you are talking 600 yard shots that the average hunter with his low skill level that has no business taking then the answer is yes. Kyle, I'm a CNC machine operator at a metal shop specializing in precision machining so I'm thinking it may be possible to do it at work??? All are great shooting rifles with the properly configured ammo. Haenels civilian rifles on the Commission action followed the German hunting rifle style that existed since the advent of centerfire cartridges. [2] The rifle was one of many weapons in the arms race between the Germanic states and France, and with Europe in general. many more doors open up with a turk. The Gewehr 98 (abbreviated G98, Gew 98, or M98) is a German bolt-action rifle made by Mauser, firing cartridges from a five-round internal clip -loaded magazine. please nourse.brad@gmail.com is my email and/or you can text me at 518902015 pleasse and thank you. Since the official Mauser figures allow a greater maximum bullet diameter, plus an increased chamber pressure for the modern pointed (S) bullet, the danger of using such a cartridge in the obsolete M. 1888 .rifle should be apparent. This rifle has a 29" barrel and strong rifling with frosting in the grooves. If it was me I'd buy a nice Lothar Walther contoured barrel and consider myself WAY ahead of the game. Conversion of ex military rifle to half stocked sporting gun by Hollis & Sons. Share. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/From first glance, that is very obviously a European sporter, so don't worry, it wasn't an American bubba who did it. This system was used in almost all Mannlicher designs and derivatives, and while it allows for speedy reloading, it also creates an entry point for dirt. The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 Commission Rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt action rifle, adopted in 1888. (Antique) Excellent condition! Repetiergewehr M13 - Austro-Hungarian Army Designation. Modern European 7.92X57 S-bore ammo is kick-butt stuff, as was the German Army military ammunition. It must be emphasized that these are pre-War figures, and that arms and ammunition made during the War may vary. It should feed well based on case size but what about the length? In the 1902 Sears catalog, the price was $24.50. Haenel, the primary private contractor, developed a line of improved models ranging from nicely made to gorgeous - but never chambered in the higher intensity modern loads. If it's a big thumper you want then the 9.3x57 is just the ticket. Schilling - Suhl - Prussia. This article appeared in the 2016 Gun Digest annual. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} One of my older loading manuals had data specifically for the Gew 88's. He is a regular contributor to the annual Gun Digest and has won the Gun Digest John T. Amber Literary Award. I need a retirement fund. I got it with an old Turk marked bayonet an an incorrect US canvas sling. Tags: None. Haenel GEW-88 - 8x57JR Pre-War Sporter Description: 24" 1/2 round - 1/2 octogon, raised brass blade front, 1 standong, 1 folding rear, full raised rib bbl., double set triggers, 4 rd. 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I'm thinking something like 8mm rem mag might even be a possibility. I blame the deer for getting behind the brush. It must definitely be remembered, however, that these rifles were intended for the 7.92mm cartridge in its original form. A rebore job will be about $200. There shouldnt be a problem, all the German conversions SHOULD have a prominent S stamped on the receiver. I'll try to use the original barrel if possible (since a new barrel would be several times the cost of the entire rifle) and do most or all of the work myself. Perhaps a year ago now a few of us were discussing " re- rifeling ", I was part of that discussion. However, pressure testing methods were not scientifically controlled in those days. Terry Wieland is shooting editor of Grays Sporting Journal and a recognized authority on fine firearms. The Gewehr 98 (abbreviated G98, Gew 98, or M98) is a German bolt action rifle made by Mauser firing cartridges from a 5-round internal clip-loaded magazine. Lots of military rifles were used as hunting rifles in Germany and all over the world from the 30s-70s. After the start of World War 1, some of the remaining Gewehr 88 S rifles were modified to the Gewehr 88/14 standard, which was generally similar to Gewehr 88/05 but with cruder workmanship. 14 watchers. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} All are the same; but they must not be confused with the 8mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer cartridge which differs in length, shape and ballistics. Or, if you like the .35's then the 9x57. I planned on doing more research if I did plan to do it. don't bother messing around with the 88 if your goal is a cheap hunting gun. Honestly, you can find a very nice Husky M46 already chambered in 9.3x57 for less than you'll spend on a conversion. FINISH SHOWS ONLY TRACES OF BLUING WITH MOSTLY PATINA COVERED BARE METAL. For military collectors, the Gewehr '88 is almost a cult object, and while it has been widely written about, it is also widely misunderstood. I use Sellier & Bellot 196gr SPCE for hunting with my old Mausers and mil-surp for plinking and banging around practice. Czech Sellier & Bellot makes excellent high-power ammunition hunting ammunition for the S-bore 8mm Mausers, good for deer, bear and elk when fired from the modern K98k rifles.. Of course one can handload for the Mauser to get optimal performance from the 8mm S bore Mauser. It was designed by the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission, and combined elements of Mauser and Mannlicher rifle design. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} Three forms of carbines were made in quantity in the Model 1888. Without it the front of the action and back of the barrel aren't supported and there is only one screw holding the entire thing to the stock! Sporterized Gewehr 88? I do prefer the 757 any day over both of them. A lot of the older Gewehr/Karabiner 88 sporters were purpose built by CG Haenel. The diameters of the bullets, length of bullets, chamber pressure and other details as generally published in English are at wide variance with the official Mauser figures. If all the mount are old and scape too can be worth a decent amount. Certainly enjoy the 1888 sporters like yours. By comparison, a Winchester Model 95 listed at only $17.50. LOEWES GEWEHR 88 - C53931 7.92x57mm Mauser; 5% blue, fair bore, good stock, 29'' barrel, MODEL 1888 COMMISSION RIFLE. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. These in 7.92x57i. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The idea was to devise some sort of 'button' / cutter that could. I had a nice V.C. Moderators:The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres, vincent998. I'm planning on building at least one Gew 88 sporter rifle I got from Centerfire and I was just wondering if anyone has done a Gew 88 sporter before. Stick with the factory loads. There are no makers names externally anywhere I can find on the gun. It has a receiver with a "split bridge" (i.e., the bolt passes through the receiver and locks in front of the rear bridge); a rotating bolt head; and the characteristic Mannlicher-style "packet loading" or "en-bloc" system in which cartridges are loaded into a steel carrier (an en bloc clip) which is inserted into the magazine, where it holds the cartridges in alignment over a spring. In that case, the scope is probably worth as much as the rifle. I've thought about keeping it in 8x57 but it seems 9.3x57 would be nearly perfect for what I want. Beautiful. The Hide Armory. JavaScript is disabled. Most of the Gewehr 88s seen in the US are the ones that were given to the Turkish forces in World War I and have been modified from the original design. The result was the famous Mannlicher-Schnauer Model 1903, a design that set the standard for quality hunting rifles for the next 70 years. This was really a short rifle. 50 caliber BMG I might think about taking a shot! Have also seen them mfg by C.G. Right now I'm entertaining the idea of building a Gew 88 in .338x57. In America these figures are usually quoted in foot-pounds on a basis of 2000 pounds to the ton, without making allowance for the fact that the British ton is 2240 pounds. In the U.S. Mauser it is generally called 8mm. Eight major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. The gun was said to be taken from a pile of guns to be burned in the middle of a village- so the sporterizing was done pre-war in Germany. A reason for this is that US ammunition makers fear the lawsuits that would follow if S bore (.323) Spitzer bullets were fired in the older unconverted J-bore Commission 88 rifles of the old J (.318) bore size. In general, yes, a Kar 88 or Gew 88. for the round nose and 51,333 ft. lbs. Why not just ream-out the original barrel to 8 mm Rem Mag? Should I go for it? Haven't slugged the bore but am sure it will be the .318 J bore. Looks pretty neat. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. A brush gun is for navigating through brushy conditions not shooting brush!". You are using an out of date browser. Early smokeless powders needed the kinks worked out. Unlike many rifles designed later, the bolt head of this rifle is able to be removed from the bolt body. Could you please explain that to me? 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) mauser hanyang 88 8mm commissioner gewehr 1888 c&r as-is osgah305 littleton, co 80120: used: 5/4/2022: $380.00 : other model 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) gewehr 88 8mm mauser spandau 1889 (read) howard, ks 67349: used: 4/12/2022: $416.13 : 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) 1888 gewehr 88 chinese mauser b14965 rw mount morris, il 61054: used . Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. My guess is the that the old German gunsmiths made a spacer to cover the threads or just cut the old threaded part of the barrel shoud off and used that.
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Although I have never been a big fan of the 857 there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cartridge as it is right up their with the ubiquitous 30-06. As a result, the number of minor variations seems endless. Suitable only for short range hunting? Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. This began by adapting a Swiss design, resulting in the Patrone 88 or M/88 of 1888, an 8mm rimless "necked" cartridge (bullet diameter 8.08mm/.318 in) loaded with an 8.08mm (.318 in) 14.6 g (226 gr) round-nose bullet propelled by a single-base smokeless powder. There are lots of Mauser 98s out there at minimal cost. All known 757mm Karabiner 88s were produced by Haenel. After these claims were found insupportable, Ahlwardt was sentenced to 4 months in prison for malicious falsehood.[3][4]. If I get to the point where I'm spending more on building a sporter from an inferior design then I would just buying a new savage or building from a 98 mauser I'll have failed my goal. Any idea where I could get a 9.3x57 barrel (not too spendy!)? Apparently arsenal staff thought this D or Z marking sufficient at first, as rifle D 771 shows no other markings. Well if you are talking 600 yard shots that the average hunter with his low skill level that has no business taking then the answer is yes. Kyle, I'm a CNC machine operator at a metal shop specializing in precision machining so I'm thinking it may be possible to do it at work??? All are great shooting rifles with the properly configured ammo. Haenels civilian rifles on the Commission action followed the German hunting rifle style that existed since the advent of centerfire cartridges. [2] The rifle was one of many weapons in the arms race between the Germanic states and France, and with Europe in general. many more doors open up with a turk. The Gewehr 98 (abbreviated G98, Gew 98, or M98) is a German bolt-action rifle made by Mauser, firing cartridges from a five-round internal clip -loaded magazine. please nourse.brad@gmail.com is my email and/or you can text me at 518902015 pleasse and thank you. Since the official Mauser figures allow a greater maximum bullet diameter, plus an increased chamber pressure for the modern pointed (S) bullet, the danger of using such a cartridge in the obsolete M. 1888 .rifle should be apparent. This rifle has a 29" barrel and strong rifling with frosting in the grooves. If it was me I'd buy a nice Lothar Walther contoured barrel and consider myself WAY ahead of the game. Conversion of ex military rifle to half stocked sporting gun by Hollis & Sons. Share. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/From first glance, that is very obviously a European sporter, so don't worry, it wasn't an American bubba who did it. This system was used in almost all Mannlicher designs and derivatives, and while it allows for speedy reloading, it also creates an entry point for dirt. The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 Commission Rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt action rifle, adopted in 1888. (Antique) Excellent condition! Repetiergewehr M13 - Austro-Hungarian Army Designation. Modern European 7.92X57 S-bore ammo is kick-butt stuff, as was the German Army military ammunition. It must be emphasized that these are pre-War figures, and that arms and ammunition made during the War may vary. It should feed well based on case size but what about the length? In the 1902 Sears catalog, the price was $24.50. Haenel, the primary private contractor, developed a line of improved models ranging from nicely made to gorgeous - but never chambered in the higher intensity modern loads. If it's a big thumper you want then the 9.3x57 is just the ticket. Schilling - Suhl - Prussia. This article appeared in the 2016 Gun Digest annual. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} One of my older loading manuals had data specifically for the Gew 88's. He is a regular contributor to the annual Gun Digest and has won the Gun Digest John T. Amber Literary Award. I need a retirement fund. I got it with an old Turk marked bayonet an an incorrect US canvas sling. Tags: None. Haenel GEW-88 - 8x57JR Pre-War Sporter Description: 24" 1/2 round - 1/2 octogon, raised brass blade front, 1 standong, 1 folding rear, full raised rib bbl., double set triggers, 4 rd. 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I'm thinking something like 8mm rem mag might even be a possibility. I blame the deer for getting behind the brush. It must definitely be remembered, however, that these rifles were intended for the 7.92mm cartridge in its original form. A rebore job will be about $200. There shouldnt be a problem, all the German conversions SHOULD have a prominent S stamped on the receiver. I'll try to use the original barrel if possible (since a new barrel would be several times the cost of the entire rifle) and do most or all of the work myself. Perhaps a year ago now a few of us were discussing " re- rifeling ", I was part of that discussion. However, pressure testing methods were not scientifically controlled in those days. Terry Wieland is shooting editor of Grays Sporting Journal and a recognized authority on fine firearms. The Gewehr 98 (abbreviated G98, Gew 98, or M98) is a German bolt action rifle made by Mauser firing cartridges from a 5-round internal clip-loaded magazine. Lots of military rifles were used as hunting rifles in Germany and all over the world from the 30s-70s. After the start of World War 1, some of the remaining Gewehr 88 S rifles were modified to the Gewehr 88/14 standard, which was generally similar to Gewehr 88/05 but with cruder workmanship. 14 watchers. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} All are the same; but they must not be confused with the 8mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer cartridge which differs in length, shape and ballistics. Or, if you like the .35's then the 9x57. I planned on doing more research if I did plan to do it. don't bother messing around with the 88 if your goal is a cheap hunting gun. Honestly, you can find a very nice Husky M46 already chambered in 9.3x57 for less than you'll spend on a conversion. FINISH SHOWS ONLY TRACES OF BLUING WITH MOSTLY PATINA COVERED BARE METAL. For military collectors, the Gewehr '88 is almost a cult object, and while it has been widely written about, it is also widely misunderstood. I use Sellier & Bellot 196gr SPCE for hunting with my old Mausers and mil-surp for plinking and banging around practice. Czech Sellier & Bellot makes excellent high-power ammunition hunting ammunition for the S-bore 8mm Mausers, good for deer, bear and elk when fired from the modern K98k rifles.. Of course one can handload for the Mauser to get optimal performance from the 8mm S bore Mauser. It was designed by the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission, and combined elements of Mauser and Mannlicher rifle design. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} Three forms of carbines were made in quantity in the Model 1888. Without it the front of the action and back of the barrel aren't supported and there is only one screw holding the entire thing to the stock! Sporterized Gewehr 88? I do prefer the 757 any day over both of them. A lot of the older Gewehr/Karabiner 88 sporters were purpose built by CG Haenel. The diameters of the bullets, length of bullets, chamber pressure and other details as generally published in English are at wide variance with the official Mauser figures. If all the mount are old and scape too can be worth a decent amount. Certainly enjoy the 1888 sporters like yours. By comparison, a Winchester Model 95 listed at only $17.50. LOEWES GEWEHR 88 - C53931 7.92x57mm Mauser; 5% blue, fair bore, good stock, 29'' barrel, MODEL 1888 COMMISSION RIFLE. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. These in 7.92x57i. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The idea was to devise some sort of 'button' / cutter that could. I had a nice V.C. Moderators:The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres, vincent998. I'm planning on building at least one Gew 88 sporter rifle I got from Centerfire and I was just wondering if anyone has done a Gew 88 sporter before. Stick with the factory loads. There are no makers names externally anywhere I can find on the gun. It has a receiver with a "split bridge" (i.e., the bolt passes through the receiver and locks in front of the rear bridge); a rotating bolt head; and the characteristic Mannlicher-style "packet loading" or "en-bloc" system in which cartridges are loaded into a steel carrier (an en bloc clip) which is inserted into the magazine, where it holds the cartridges in alignment over a spring. In that case, the scope is probably worth as much as the rifle. I've thought about keeping it in 8x57 but it seems 9.3x57 would be nearly perfect for what I want. Beautiful. The Hide Armory. JavaScript is disabled. Most of the Gewehr 88s seen in the US are the ones that were given to the Turkish forces in World War I and have been modified from the original design. The result was the famous Mannlicher-Schnauer Model 1903, a design that set the standard for quality hunting rifles for the next 70 years. This was really a short rifle. 50 caliber BMG I might think about taking a shot! Have also seen them mfg by C.G. Right now I'm entertaining the idea of building a Gew 88 in .338x57. In America these figures are usually quoted in foot-pounds on a basis of 2000 pounds to the ton, without making allowance for the fact that the British ton is 2240 pounds. In the U.S. Mauser it is generally called 8mm. Eight major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. The gun was said to be taken from a pile of guns to be burned in the middle of a village- so the sporterizing was done pre-war in Germany. A reason for this is that US ammunition makers fear the lawsuits that would follow if S bore (.323) Spitzer bullets were fired in the older unconverted J-bore Commission 88 rifles of the old J (.318) bore size. In general, yes, a Kar 88 or Gew 88. for the round nose and 51,333 ft. lbs. Why not just ream-out the original barrel to 8 mm Rem Mag? Should I go for it? Haven't slugged the bore but am sure it will be the .318 J bore. Looks pretty neat. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. A brush gun is for navigating through brushy conditions not shooting brush!". You are using an out of date browser. Early smokeless powders needed the kinks worked out. Unlike many rifles designed later, the bolt head of this rifle is able to be removed from the bolt body. Could you please explain that to me? 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) mauser hanyang 88 8mm commissioner gewehr 1888 c&r as-is osgah305 littleton, co 80120: used: 5/4/2022: $380.00 : other model 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) gewehr 88 8mm mauser spandau 1889 (read) howard, ks 67349: used: 4/12/2022: $416.13 : 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) 1888 gewehr 88 chinese mauser b14965 rw mount morris, il 61054: used . Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. My guess is the that the old German gunsmiths made a spacer to cover the threads or just cut the old threaded part of the barrel shoud off and used that.
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