The wife became sick and died along the Trail. Servt.Jim SwordsJamestown/Wmbg, VA. Looks like we are distant cousins through Nancy Ward, Cornstalk, Moytoy and everyone else! As mentioned earlier the Dawes Rolls are available on the internet. Thanks for further assisting the Corruption of the Truth by posting Blatant lies pertaining to NOT MOYTOY, NO MOYTOY never existed &c.Ani'-Yun'wi ya' a'na's'gv'ti Toochlar hi'ge ani go'la da'gah' da - Dagulaku, My name is Carie Adkins Westbrook. even with all of the info, it means nothing to CN because they were not enrolled during the 7 years they require. I have decided to treat my known ancestors of mixed and full blood with a 'this is what is possible' and not a definite 'this is how it is'. Moytoy pigeon of tellico had a daughter ani-ga-tage-wi moytoy whom married John Joseph Vann, they had a daughter Mary ottertail whom married 6x great grandfather Henry McGee. I would really, really, really appreciate it. According to my information. So, if anyone can shed any light on my dilemma I would be appreciative. He is suppose to be called "The End Of The Trail". The same Joseph Vann who had to spend the rest of his life in the colonies because he knew he would die for his treachery. Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? Read Scott's orders. I am a direct descendant of Col. Stephen Copeland. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me), MARY MCDANIEL IS DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM MCDANIEL AND SU-GI. Find others researching your family tree. To broaden the results, try using our global search. It is what it is. I am very interested in getting the dawes final rolls number..I have been searching for this informationI am also trying to figure out the name of the unknown cheorkee son of moytoyII father of Ani Waya..email is missourigirl.lc@gmail.com, I am wanting help trying to find Jenni ani WiYa father, he is known as the unknown cherokee his father is Moytoy II..Does anyone have the dawes#..I am thinked to the Westbrook and Fogles? Moytoy is considered to be full-blood by members of the Nation because his white father married Pride, a Shawnee. Teach us what a real Cherokee is, please. Really it's because the roles have closed except to newborns whose parents must take a DNA test to prove Eastern Cherokee blood. (1750 - 1814) Photos: 39. Her Wikitree profile lists four husbands and five children. So, I have decided to write it just like I did to them, and include their emails in the book so at least the information is there! (, https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31, the marriage of Wurteh to Bloody Fellow is speculative but plausible.. Fred Fuchs: I am wondering if Ernest Essary might be my great uncle. family that started the story of Cornblossom & Yalloh Falls was a made up story. You can find out more on RootsWeb, (Miller/Rider/Dees)Note* Granuaille means Grasshopper. !I am LowreyMajor George Lowrey & Lucy Benge are where my family take off begins where we are relatedOh how our ancestors would love to know we are all here, that they are here in usShelly in California. Watts responded by invading the Holston area with more than 1,000 Cherokee, Muscogee, and Shawnee warriors, one of the largest Indian forces seen in the region. How they were excluded from the Nation because they were black? My grandmother was Dottie Starr. I just did DNA and found out through matches and family tree that Im related to Moytoy. She never existed, there is not one schred of factual evidence that she was a real person. They had 11 children: Aley Cherokee Indian Evans (born Watts), Elizabeth WATTS and 9 other children. Lugie Watts Mackey. My new email address is ol_man_emu@bigpond.com. I have been doing research for ten years in hopes to find a roll number to which I can apply for a CDIB card from at Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, OK. His pension application lists all the places he lived in North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. I do however wish to validate the claim that someone in the same line, yet closer on my tree, (my 4x great grandparents) were of Cherokee origin. They remained "full-blood" unless they remarried outside the Nation, in which case they were considered to revert or relinquish their blood-tie vow. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. My name is William Ray Allison, Jr. My dad's mother, Cora Waters, was enrolled in the Dawes Roll as was her mother, Maudie Condreay Waters, her mother, Barbara Allie Palone Condreay, and her mother, Mary Parris Palone. Great Chief Doublehead and Drags Blanket were my 6th great grand parents as Amatoy Moytoy also a ninth great grandfather. He was never married to a Mary at all. That's why you need to rely on primary reccords in places like the National Archives. With all this he managed to double the number of slaves that he owned (over 200) and he relocated all of them west during the Trail of Tears via riverboats. I neither have to prove myself to you nor defend my ancestors' actions nearly 230 years ago. I do not know to put this together to prove it. With one simple test, you can discover your genetic origins and find family you never knew you had. What is this website? Watts. Your family disgraced our people. We have estimated Elizabeth Watts's net worth , money, salary, income, and assets. 4. Watts became particularly active in the fighting after frontiersmen murdered his uncle, Old Tassel Carpenter 1708-1788, in 1788, while he traveled with Cherokee delegates to a peace conference. Oh my goodness! The peace party included Bob McLemore, Tahlonteeskee, Captain Charley of Running Water, and Doublehead, as well as the white delegates. Sally Watts Haithman Query: . 3. Charles Washington Starr. Kharma, maybe. I'm assuming you're a Christian. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770.Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". My 5x great grandfather was Henry ( Tarle Skawee) Mcgee. . I have a few research partners from that line that validate this. However you are not going to find it since the Cherokee did not have a written language until Sequoyah and history was passed by word of mouth. Was very interested in your article and appreciate you putting it here for us to read. This was the third phase of the "Cherokee removal" to lands in the West. It is McDaniel and Suki, Daughter Rachel her Husband Henry Chambers, Tatum married Chamber's Daughter, Tatums Daughter marries Tharp. you can reach me at karynbishof10@gmail.comthank you so much! It is fantastic to know your culture. White Wing married Elijah Adkins. otherwise, your out of luck. Elizabeth Watts, born Abt. Thank you for this information! What did Joseph Vann inherit? Could Prachy also have been Captain George Parris. 4752 Cherokee Rd Jonesborough TN 37659 5973 Kingsport Hwy Johnson City TN 37615 5973 Kingsport Hwy Gray TN 37615 5751 Kingsport Hwy Gray TN 37615 103 Bumpus . charlotte a. kirkland ,I am cousin to some of yall.I am throughamatoya moytoyquatsy of tellico they are my 10th ggrand parents.my tree goes on into the heltons,where eudica d helton mar. Any information on this line would be appreciated. About Elizabeth "Wurte" Watts . I'm June Hicks-Kilpatrick and just posted a link that has your family connection with Old Hops . linking the McDaniels and Cummings. PLEASE email me with any information regarding common names, and how you enrolled, who you used so I can see if any of it matches up.KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me). 124 confirmed names, back to chief moytoy yet not accepted.if you have anything to help you can email me at karynbishof10@gmail.com, Hello, (very distant) cousin. I hate all the arguing on here. After all, in today's day an age, it's now popular to "be indian".So can someone shed some light on the truth? The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. Su-gi was Shawnee/Cherokee. Hire a real Cherokee genealogist and accept the DOCUMENTED TRUTH. Records: 111. My family is also related to the Moytoy. It is incredible that all this is actually documented. I can see where this could become addictive! This is how rich the Vanns were back then. My great great grandmother was Keziah Jane Hicks who was full blood Cherokee (born in Tennesee on 18 January 1832) married William M. Maxfield (born in Tennesee on 18 April 1821) 11 November 1847 in Rusk County, Texas. Missing from the list of children is the man known as The Tail. Almost nothing is known of him except mentions of his participation in raids conducted by John Watts, Doublehead, and Bob Benge. I am 63 and just recently learned that my mother's grt,grt,grt grandmother was Mary Ann Black, daughter of Black Fox and that making us descendents of Attakullakulla and Moytoy. Find Elizabeth Watts's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. Chief was born in 1726, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. In reply to: Re: Daniel D. Watts - AL b. abt. Have you found a role number yet? Mary died either in England or Virginia. I am on Ancestry.com. I can be reached at bradyfigueroa@hotmail.com. SUV LC205979 For Sale at 21st Century Auto Group Springfield 07081 Chiefs: Dragging Canoe (1777-1792) John Watts (1792-1802) Doublehead, brother of Old Tassel, served from 1802-1807 The Glass, or Ta'gwadihi (1807-1809) Cherokee Nation East (1794-1839) John Ross, c. 1866 Little Turkey was elected First Beloved Man of the . Joseph Vann, son of James Vann, inherited the vast wealth of James Vann even though it went against the Cherokee tradition of a Clan distributing it among all members. Tharp Son marries an Allen. Bill Wiley (R-Winchester) Del. She is also said to have been the mother of George Gist, known by his Cherokee name, "Sequoyah", who is credited as creating the Cherokee alphabet and writing system. It is also sufficient information to become a tribe member of the Western Cherokees. Any other tribes claiming to Cherokees are fake - not recognized through history, culture, etc. Don't have a clue what all that means? Elizabeth Watts Net Worth. I was so excited when I saw my mom, that was the first thing I told her and she blurted out well you are on my side too. There is some circumstantial evidence that he was the father of John Jolly. Guatemala specifically. She left Elijah, taking "little Nancy" with her, then became the 3rd wife of Tecumseh. There is no documentation to support this conclusion. Ancestry dot com and other such sites just regurgitate old myths and family stories that are, more often than not, way off-base or flat-out untrue. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. Yeah. Benge was a noted Cherokee Chief and raider of the upper Holston settlements. To be recognized by The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma, you must show a relationship with a member who is on the Dawes Rolls. Watts, along with Bloody Fellow, Doublehead, and "Young Dragging Canoe" (Tsula), continued to encourage Indian unity in resistance to European-American settlers. Shawnee and Cherokee, they remembered their blood ties to Thomas Carpenter and by associative lineage based on their own societal order, to the British and, by extension, to the new Americans. Elizabeth Watts Freelance Writer at Elizabeth Watts Professional and Educational Writer Canton, Georgia, United States 36 connections We already know who our relatives are. Try using our image search and remember to check the name spelling. Ensign Thomas Ayres (to Oglethorpe) was of mixed blood but educated in England where his wealthy father, who was on the Georgia Board, found him a position with Oglethorpe. White Wing's son Richard Adkins is my 5th gr-grandfather. Would like to clean up profile of Avery Vann, More Vann clean-up - Joseph Vann, husband of Wah-li, What is the obituary for William David Watts, Birth 1777, Found Someone's Old Family Bible - William Zenas Watts (1846 - 1903). I'm desperately trying to determine if Irene Jane Adkins was blood line to Mary Bluesky or to Parker's 2nd wife, Mary "Polly" Fry. Remember what Jesus warned his disciples of, "Do not worry about the speck of dust in your brothers eye when you have plank in your own." Would love to have their roll numbers since I have been unable to find them in several years of research. Yes it would. I don't know how many times I heard her say she wished she'd never told me. I really am trying to clean up my visible Internet life and found this when I googled myself years later. The information about the Dortons seems to have been added by someone no longer connected to the profile, but I will wait a couple of days before detaching them and replacing the bio with documented facts in case there are any objections or discussion. So--we are related? Does anyone know the name of trader Jim, big Jim,White green's mother shawano woman's father was? I just do not know how to prove this. 8/29/99. One of my Dad's cousins applied for tribal membership and received it. His name was Jace Maxfield. There are myriad original documents supporting my posted FACTS that were kept by the early Moravians, Indian agents, and military/widows' pensions for service in which the Cherokee participated. I am the 7th great grand-daughter of Prudence the daughter of Old Hop. sminter2000@hotmail.com, HEY, DO YOU MATCH WITH ME ON ANCESTRY OR 23 AND ME OR GED MATCH? No matter the racial or ethnic composition of someone who originated from outside the Clans, if they married a Cherokee, they were considered as full-blood by the Nation. It sad because all the info is there. thanks again. she was born in 1912 died 1983. her connection was through granny hopper,and thomas essary. CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE TO KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COM. I am trying to find my possible connection to the Eastern Cherokee Nation. But trying to find of there is a roll number. None of them. Chief Stout Man "Young Peter" Cornstalk. I am working on it! If anyone is interested in exchanging family info please contact me @ walkersarehome@yahoo.com. Their brother John Watts Bowles 1756-1839 was Chief of the Arkansas Cherokee, leading a contingency of Chickamauga west of the Mississippi into Spanish Territory present day St. Francis River, Parkin, Arkansas in 1794. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). There are plenty of federally recognized white people among the Cherokee. I know it run through my moms side but having trouble finding the information I need. SOOKIE SUSANNAH Su'Gi "GRASSHOPPER" Moytoy is my 5th great grandmother on the opposite side of my family. I have traced my grandmother Claudia peddycoart to Elizabeth Ravin hop moytoy. I am still a little confused on the wives an children. Elizabeth worked as a news anchor and reporter for KOAA News5 from August 2016 to July 23, 2021. while there, she received quite a fulfilling amount. If you were an Anonymous give me the time and date and I will be glad to remove it. Four generations below them in my tree lies Martha Conner and her daughter Beulah Francis Tucker. Elizabeth Watts was the daughter of Isaac Watts and Sarah Lowdermilk of Iredell county, North Carolina. William Ray Allison, Jr - that should give you some help in your search. As a descendent of Attacullaculla (a member of the family by marriage, adoption, and possibly blood), family tradition often solves a lot of these problems. To Know that they are a part of my life, is so Great. Tail Sixkiller. We've come from GREAT ANCESTORS and I'm so proud to know that WE are a part of History! Benge Fielder. Hello family! Olivia Newton-John Dead at 73: The Star and Grease Icon Dies of Breast Cancer. The emigrants who established our first colonies had a tough go. Chief Benge's father was Jphn Benge, a white trader who lived with the Indians for most of his adult life. Mrs. WATTS maiden name was Elizabeth MILLER. Obediah Benge lived in Georgia while John Benge was also alive and living there. Cat Vann - My Great Grandmother married a Vann and my ancestors are John Vann and Agnes Weatherford. As with most early Cherokee women, almost nothing is known of the woman called "Wurteh Watts," the mother of Bob "The Bench" Benge. . Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. 658 following. Sonja Yount iyount1@att.net. (https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31) Hicks attempted to group people who were known to be relatives into families. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. Although the Cherokee elected a "national" government in 1794, complete with a Principal Chief and National Council, it had no real power. John Jolly (Due): John Jolly was a Cherokee chief, (half?) . Watts's mother, Oousta, was a sister of Cherokee chiefs Attakullkulla Carpenter . It couldn't have been the Vanns could it? I am related to may of you! How? It may help some of us become federally recognized, and it may help new combers or our children and grandchildren prove their lines some day. Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". Or would you rather not this be brought up? The old cherokee tribe also had numerous links to kentucky.other tribes and early euro traders had to pay the cherokee kings lease and trade fees for being in cherokee territory much like the king powhatan era. Chief Doublehead was my partner's 6 great grandfather and his daughter Cornblossom my partner's 5th great grandmother. I did not obtain enrollment from any of them. I have seen full-bloods who have virtually no idea of the great legacy entrusted to their care. I seem to have inherited slightly more Native American than he has. He was a British interpreter for the Cherokees at Fort Loudoun (S.C.) in 1758 and at Augusta in 1763, and continued to fill that position at the 1770 treaty . I am researching my family tree and I came across the name ADAIR, and I decided to see where it went . Plus you can pull up the Vann Cherokee Indians and it tells you all about them. Can I assume that 'Trade Carpenter' is Amatoya Moytoy? John Watts (or Kunokeski ), also known as Young Tassel, was one of the leaders of the Chickamauga Cherokee (or "Lower Cherokee") during the Cherokee-American wars. Charity did not belong to Blue Sky; there is no reason to believe that she belonged to anyone other than Parker Adkins's wife, Mary. For some, their families were ashamed of their indian heritage and made a point to hide it. I am related through Nanya'hi and her line. I wonder, Cat, have you taken a DNA Test? Thank you . how was attacullaculla and kanastoga both grandfathers of Major ridge andGeneral Stand Watie, Amatoya Moytoy is your 9th great grandfather. 1,645 Followers, 658 Following, 578 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Elizabeth Watts Schrack (@elizabethwatts5) elizabethwatts5. Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first deceive! . DID YOU EVER RECEIVE ONE? Many of the names you listed as relatives are also relatives of mine. The "provable dna" blood-ties via validated lineages and delineations only became re-defined during the time of Native American removal [Trail of Tears for example], and federal rolls for purposes of documenting the Nation, by the US Government, came into effect. Chief Vann had nothing to do with Shoeboots' and his slave Doll's children's separation. It can only tell you if you have a percentage of native american DNA. Thomas 'married' the mixed blood daughter of Col. James Moore, SC Gov, and when he died, Mary Moore Ayres, his wife, gave their son to the White half brother, John Ayres. Son Moses is also a well documented Revolutionary War soldier DAR #A033304, born in Virginia in 1762. I am very proud of being part Cherokee when I was told I had Indian blood I started researching and keep coming up with only partial info and everyone says don't bother its not worth trying to get recognized with a tribe. My tree also indicates that I'm descended from Powhatan & Moytoyhowever, I'm NOT interested in chasing that proof. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? Heather, I will be glad to remove it, but I am not sure which one is yours. finding family on the dawes rolls is hard, because a lot of names you may have pop up, but cherokee nation only accepts names between their 7 year requirement and they had to be living in OK . Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee. Evans, E. Raymond. He is my 10th cousin 7x removed. Under that treaty, the Spanish would provide arms and supplies to the Native Americans to carry on their war against the US. Love finding your site! If you have direct family members listed on The Dawes Rolls would that confirm blood lines? Can the blogger please remove my comment? Wurteh Elizabeth Watts was born in 1750, at birth place, Alabama, to Trader John Capt. She and Joseph are my 4x-grands. Mary Parris Palone was born in Georgia in 1841 and died in Westville, Oklahoma, in 1921 and is buried at the Old Baptist Mission Cemetery there, right across the road from the church (where I was married in 1984). I came across the name Ga Ho Ga, who was born about 1730 in Deer, Newton County, Arkansas and died about 1790 in Rome, Floyd County, Georgia. I have found record of Elizabeth Judd married to Benjimin Pennell burried in Winkler cemetary in Boone, NC. My Grand daughter who is 7, Is very interested an wanted me to look up a few. There is a lot of back and forth on here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.I think many people, especially those that aren't citizens, like the notion of being related to a "chief" in an "indian tribe" as a romantic idea, and what I'm really after is "the truth" about my lineage. I also am from Moytoy and the Copelands. I am trying to verify the name of John L Dean on the Dawes Rolls. From sites like Ancestry & others. She joined the TV station in August 2016 and anchors the network's news on weeknights and also brings the 360 To know my Carpenter Family . I really need to know who they were! Clan: Ani'-W'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. Query: My great great grandmother, Elizabeth Floyd, married a Cherokee man, name unknown. Please email me is any of u share a connection hhokomo@aol.com. Can you please tell me, was Amatoya Moytoy Chief Doublehead's grandfather? His pension application (images on Fold3 at. ) 1 1 1 2 5 3 1 4 1 5: Nancy Ann Ivey. He became war council head, or "skiagusta," of the Lower Cherokee.[3]. I have information back to my great great grandmother and found her parents names once but haven't been able to find them since but the line went back to Pidgeon of Tellico and further back to Motoy(s). I am going to make a trip to oklahoma, not to far , we now live in Arkansas. The following students who have a grade point average of 3.8 to 4.0 were recognized: John "Old Forked Tongue" Watts (1/2 Blood Cherokee). Could we be related? Along the way, the group was attacked by a militant group of frontiersmen during a stop at the Overhill town of Coyatee. Actually The carpenter family can be traced back to people in English Parliment and with in some Bourbon's in French court. Most of my ancestors are from Tennessee. Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. Old Hop and Su-gi had a daughter named Grasshopper and she married David McDaniel a registered Indian trader. White men and women who married Cherokees are then considered to be a member of the tribe. My family has connection through Granny Hopper and Thomas Essary. there are more but this seems like the most likely common to be used, and its what you mentioned as well. I don't see a purpose to it. John Benge [[Benge-104]]: John Benge was a white trader who lived in the Cherokee Nation most of his adult life. News personality. The Cherokee people, along with Watts' Chickmauga warriors, agreed to await the outcome of the subsequent trial. says that he was born in Virginia, moved to North Carolina with his mother, and in May, 1785 at the age of 16 or 17 was forced to serve in the War by a step-father named Fielder. Do you.have an actual family tree showing descendants? Read Watt's account. Here's my direct-lineage proving ancestry.Direct Famial Lineage: Cleopatra Powhatan1590-1641Mother of -> Pride Shawnee1615-1679Mother of -> Amatoya Moytoy1640-1730Father of -> Old Hop Moytoy1690-1761Father of -> Sookie Granny Grasshopper1730-1820Mother of -> Rachel Tookah McDaniel1763-1792Mother of -> Rachel Agnes Tookah Chambers1781-1846Mother of -> William Simon Roland "Billy" Norris1816-1892Father of -> John Roland Norris1853-1903Father of -> James "Jim" Roland Norris1883-1930Father of -> Lucy Jane Norris1908-1986Mother of -> John Earl "Johnny" Jones1945-1978Father of -> Timothy Lavon Mitchell - Jones(Given Name at Birth.
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The wife became sick and died along the Trail. Servt.Jim SwordsJamestown/Wmbg, VA. Looks like we are distant cousins through Nancy Ward, Cornstalk, Moytoy and everyone else! As mentioned earlier the Dawes Rolls are available on the internet. Thanks for further assisting the Corruption of the Truth by posting Blatant lies pertaining to NOT MOYTOY, NO MOYTOY never existed &c.Ani'-Yun'wi ya' a'na's'gv'ti Toochlar hi'ge ani go'la da'gah' da - Dagulaku, My name is Carie Adkins Westbrook. even with all of the info, it means nothing to CN because they were not enrolled during the 7 years they require. I have decided to treat my known ancestors of mixed and full blood with a 'this is what is possible' and not a definite 'this is how it is'. Moytoy pigeon of tellico had a daughter ani-ga-tage-wi moytoy whom married John Joseph Vann, they had a daughter Mary ottertail whom married 6x great grandfather Henry McGee. I would really, really, really appreciate it. According to my information. So, if anyone can shed any light on my dilemma I would be appreciative. He is suppose to be called "The End Of The Trail". The same Joseph Vann who had to spend the rest of his life in the colonies because he knew he would die for his treachery. Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? Read Scott's orders. I am a direct descendant of Col. Stephen Copeland. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me), MARY MCDANIEL IS DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM MCDANIEL AND SU-GI. Find others researching your family tree. To broaden the results, try using our global search. It is what it is. I am very interested in getting the dawes final rolls number..I have been searching for this informationI am also trying to figure out the name of the unknown cheorkee son of moytoyII father of Ani Waya..email is missourigirl.lc@gmail.com, I am wanting help trying to find Jenni ani WiYa father, he is known as the unknown cherokee his father is Moytoy II..Does anyone have the dawes#..I am thinked to the Westbrook and Fogles? Moytoy is considered to be full-blood by members of the Nation because his white father married Pride, a Shawnee. Teach us what a real Cherokee is, please. Really it's because the roles have closed except to newborns whose parents must take a DNA test to prove Eastern Cherokee blood. (1750 - 1814) Photos: 39. Her Wikitree profile lists four husbands and five children. So, I have decided to write it just like I did to them, and include their emails in the book so at least the information is there! (, https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31, the marriage of Wurteh to Bloody Fellow is speculative but plausible.. Fred Fuchs: I am wondering if Ernest Essary might be my great uncle. family that started the story of Cornblossom & Yalloh Falls was a made up story. You can find out more on RootsWeb, (Miller/Rider/Dees)Note* Granuaille means Grasshopper. !I am LowreyMajor George Lowrey & Lucy Benge are where my family take off begins where we are relatedOh how our ancestors would love to know we are all here, that they are here in usShelly in California. Watts responded by invading the Holston area with more than 1,000 Cherokee, Muscogee, and Shawnee warriors, one of the largest Indian forces seen in the region. How they were excluded from the Nation because they were black? My grandmother was Dottie Starr. I just did DNA and found out through matches and family tree that Im related to Moytoy. She never existed, there is not one schred of factual evidence that she was a real person. They had 11 children: Aley Cherokee Indian Evans (born Watts), Elizabeth WATTS and 9 other children. Lugie Watts Mackey. My new email address is ol_man_emu@bigpond.com. I have been doing research for ten years in hopes to find a roll number to which I can apply for a CDIB card from at Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, OK. His pension application lists all the places he lived in North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. I do however wish to validate the claim that someone in the same line, yet closer on my tree, (my 4x great grandparents) were of Cherokee origin. They remained "full-blood" unless they remarried outside the Nation, in which case they were considered to revert or relinquish their blood-tie vow. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. My name is William Ray Allison, Jr. My dad's mother, Cora Waters, was enrolled in the Dawes Roll as was her mother, Maudie Condreay Waters, her mother, Barbara Allie Palone Condreay, and her mother, Mary Parris Palone. Great Chief Doublehead and Drags Blanket were my 6th great grand parents as Amatoy Moytoy also a ninth great grandfather. He was never married to a Mary at all. That's why you need to rely on primary reccords in places like the National Archives. With all this he managed to double the number of slaves that he owned (over 200) and he relocated all of them west during the Trail of Tears via riverboats. I neither have to prove myself to you nor defend my ancestors' actions nearly 230 years ago. I do not know to put this together to prove it. With one simple test, you can discover your genetic origins and find family you never knew you had. What is this website? Watts. Your family disgraced our people. We have estimated Elizabeth Watts's net worth , money, salary, income, and assets. 4. Watts became particularly active in the fighting after frontiersmen murdered his uncle, Old Tassel Carpenter 1708-1788, in 1788, while he traveled with Cherokee delegates to a peace conference. Oh my goodness! The peace party included Bob McLemore, Tahlonteeskee, Captain Charley of Running Water, and Doublehead, as well as the white delegates. Sally Watts Haithman Query: . 3. Charles Washington Starr. Kharma, maybe. I'm assuming you're a Christian. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770.Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". My 5x great grandfather was Henry ( Tarle Skawee) Mcgee. . I have a few research partners from that line that validate this. However you are not going to find it since the Cherokee did not have a written language until Sequoyah and history was passed by word of mouth. Was very interested in your article and appreciate you putting it here for us to read. This was the third phase of the "Cherokee removal" to lands in the West. It is McDaniel and Suki, Daughter Rachel her Husband Henry Chambers, Tatum married Chamber's Daughter, Tatums Daughter marries Tharp. you can reach me at karynbishof10@gmail.comthank you so much! It is fantastic to know your culture. White Wing married Elijah Adkins. otherwise, your out of luck. Elizabeth Watts, born Abt. Thank you for this information! What did Joseph Vann inherit? Could Prachy also have been Captain George Parris. 4752 Cherokee Rd Jonesborough TN 37659 5973 Kingsport Hwy Johnson City TN 37615 5973 Kingsport Hwy Gray TN 37615 5751 Kingsport Hwy Gray TN 37615 103 Bumpus . charlotte a. kirkland ,I am cousin to some of yall.I am throughamatoya moytoyquatsy of tellico they are my 10th ggrand parents.my tree goes on into the heltons,where eudica d helton mar. Any information on this line would be appreciated. About Elizabeth "Wurte" Watts . I'm June Hicks-Kilpatrick and just posted a link that has your family connection with Old Hops . linking the McDaniels and Cummings. PLEASE email me with any information regarding common names, and how you enrolled, who you used so I can see if any of it matches up.KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me). 124 confirmed names, back to chief moytoy yet not accepted.if you have anything to help you can email me at karynbishof10@gmail.com, Hello, (very distant) cousin. I hate all the arguing on here. After all, in today's day an age, it's now popular to "be indian".So can someone shed some light on the truth? The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. Su-gi was Shawnee/Cherokee. Hire a real Cherokee genealogist and accept the DOCUMENTED TRUTH. Records: 111. My family is also related to the Moytoy. It is incredible that all this is actually documented. I can see where this could become addictive! This is how rich the Vanns were back then. My great great grandmother was Keziah Jane Hicks who was full blood Cherokee (born in Tennesee on 18 January 1832) married William M. Maxfield (born in Tennesee on 18 April 1821) 11 November 1847 in Rusk County, Texas. Missing from the list of children is the man known as The Tail. Almost nothing is known of him except mentions of his participation in raids conducted by John Watts, Doublehead, and Bob Benge. I am 63 and just recently learned that my mother's grt,grt,grt grandmother was Mary Ann Black, daughter of Black Fox and that making us descendents of Attakullakulla and Moytoy. Find Elizabeth Watts's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. Chief was born in 1726, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. In reply to: Re: Daniel D. Watts - AL b. abt. Have you found a role number yet? Mary died either in England or Virginia. I am on Ancestry.com. I can be reached at bradyfigueroa@hotmail.com. SUV LC205979 For Sale at 21st Century Auto Group Springfield 07081 Chiefs: Dragging Canoe (1777-1792) John Watts (1792-1802) Doublehead, brother of Old Tassel, served from 1802-1807 The Glass, or Ta'gwadihi (1807-1809) Cherokee Nation East (1794-1839) John Ross, c. 1866 Little Turkey was elected First Beloved Man of the . Joseph Vann, son of James Vann, inherited the vast wealth of James Vann even though it went against the Cherokee tradition of a Clan distributing it among all members. Tharp Son marries an Allen. Bill Wiley (R-Winchester) Del. She is also said to have been the mother of George Gist, known by his Cherokee name, "Sequoyah", who is credited as creating the Cherokee alphabet and writing system. It is also sufficient information to become a tribe member of the Western Cherokees. Any other tribes claiming to Cherokees are fake - not recognized through history, culture, etc. Don't have a clue what all that means? Elizabeth Watts Net Worth. I was so excited when I saw my mom, that was the first thing I told her and she blurted out well you are on my side too. There is some circumstantial evidence that he was the father of John Jolly. Guatemala specifically. She left Elijah, taking "little Nancy" with her, then became the 3rd wife of Tecumseh. There is no documentation to support this conclusion. Ancestry dot com and other such sites just regurgitate old myths and family stories that are, more often than not, way off-base or flat-out untrue. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. Yeah. Benge was a noted Cherokee Chief and raider of the upper Holston settlements. To be recognized by The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma, you must show a relationship with a member who is on the Dawes Rolls. Watts, along with Bloody Fellow, Doublehead, and "Young Dragging Canoe" (Tsula), continued to encourage Indian unity in resistance to European-American settlers. Shawnee and Cherokee, they remembered their blood ties to Thomas Carpenter and by associative lineage based on their own societal order, to the British and, by extension, to the new Americans. Elizabeth Watts Freelance Writer at Elizabeth Watts Professional and Educational Writer Canton, Georgia, United States 36 connections We already know who our relatives are. Try using our image search and remember to check the name spelling. Ensign Thomas Ayres (to Oglethorpe) was of mixed blood but educated in England where his wealthy father, who was on the Georgia Board, found him a position with Oglethorpe. White Wing's son Richard Adkins is my 5th gr-grandfather. Would like to clean up profile of Avery Vann, More Vann clean-up - Joseph Vann, husband of Wah-li, What is the obituary for William David Watts, Birth 1777, Found Someone's Old Family Bible - William Zenas Watts (1846 - 1903). I'm desperately trying to determine if Irene Jane Adkins was blood line to Mary Bluesky or to Parker's 2nd wife, Mary "Polly" Fry. Remember what Jesus warned his disciples of, "Do not worry about the speck of dust in your brothers eye when you have plank in your own." Would love to have their roll numbers since I have been unable to find them in several years of research. Yes it would. I don't know how many times I heard her say she wished she'd never told me. I really am trying to clean up my visible Internet life and found this when I googled myself years later. The information about the Dortons seems to have been added by someone no longer connected to the profile, but I will wait a couple of days before detaching them and replacing the bio with documented facts in case there are any objections or discussion. So--we are related? Does anyone know the name of trader Jim, big Jim,White green's mother shawano woman's father was? I just do not know how to prove this. 8/29/99. One of my Dad's cousins applied for tribal membership and received it. His name was Jace Maxfield. There are myriad original documents supporting my posted FACTS that were kept by the early Moravians, Indian agents, and military/widows' pensions for service in which the Cherokee participated. I am the 7th great grand-daughter of Prudence the daughter of Old Hop. sminter2000@hotmail.com, HEY, DO YOU MATCH WITH ME ON ANCESTRY OR 23 AND ME OR GED MATCH? No matter the racial or ethnic composition of someone who originated from outside the Clans, if they married a Cherokee, they were considered as full-blood by the Nation. It sad because all the info is there. thanks again. she was born in 1912 died 1983. her connection was through granny hopper,and thomas essary. CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE TO KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COM. I am trying to find my possible connection to the Eastern Cherokee Nation. But trying to find of there is a roll number. None of them. Chief Stout Man "Young Peter" Cornstalk. I am working on it! If anyone is interested in exchanging family info please contact me @ walkersarehome@yahoo.com. Their brother John Watts Bowles 1756-1839 was Chief of the Arkansas Cherokee, leading a contingency of Chickamauga west of the Mississippi into Spanish Territory present day St. Francis River, Parkin, Arkansas in 1794. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). There are plenty of federally recognized white people among the Cherokee. I know it run through my moms side but having trouble finding the information I need. SOOKIE SUSANNAH Su'Gi "GRASSHOPPER" Moytoy is my 5th great grandmother on the opposite side of my family. I have traced my grandmother Claudia peddycoart to Elizabeth Ravin hop moytoy. I am still a little confused on the wives an children. Elizabeth worked as a news anchor and reporter for KOAA News5 from August 2016 to July 23, 2021. while there, she received quite a fulfilling amount. If you were an Anonymous give me the time and date and I will be glad to remove it. Four generations below them in my tree lies Martha Conner and her daughter Beulah Francis Tucker. Elizabeth Watts was the daughter of Isaac Watts and Sarah Lowdermilk of Iredell county, North Carolina. William Ray Allison, Jr - that should give you some help in your search. As a descendent of Attacullaculla (a member of the family by marriage, adoption, and possibly blood), family tradition often solves a lot of these problems. To Know that they are a part of my life, is so Great. Tail Sixkiller. We've come from GREAT ANCESTORS and I'm so proud to know that WE are a part of History! Benge Fielder. Hello family! Olivia Newton-John Dead at 73: The Star and Grease Icon Dies of Breast Cancer. The emigrants who established our first colonies had a tough go. Chief Benge's father was Jphn Benge, a white trader who lived with the Indians for most of his adult life. Mrs. WATTS maiden name was Elizabeth MILLER. Obediah Benge lived in Georgia while John Benge was also alive and living there. Cat Vann - My Great Grandmother married a Vann and my ancestors are John Vann and Agnes Weatherford. As with most early Cherokee women, almost nothing is known of the woman called "Wurteh Watts," the mother of Bob "The Bench" Benge. . Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. 658 following. Sonja Yount iyount1@att.net. (https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31) Hicks attempted to group people who were known to be relatives into families. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. Although the Cherokee elected a "national" government in 1794, complete with a Principal Chief and National Council, it had no real power. John Jolly (Due): John Jolly was a Cherokee chief, (half?) . Watts's mother, Oousta, was a sister of Cherokee chiefs Attakullkulla Carpenter . It couldn't have been the Vanns could it? I am related to may of you! How? It may help some of us become federally recognized, and it may help new combers or our children and grandchildren prove their lines some day. Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". Or would you rather not this be brought up? The old cherokee tribe also had numerous links to kentucky.other tribes and early euro traders had to pay the cherokee kings lease and trade fees for being in cherokee territory much like the king powhatan era. Chief Doublehead was my partner's 6 great grandfather and his daughter Cornblossom my partner's 5th great grandmother. I did not obtain enrollment from any of them. I have seen full-bloods who have virtually no idea of the great legacy entrusted to their care. I seem to have inherited slightly more Native American than he has. He was a British interpreter for the Cherokees at Fort Loudoun (S.C.) in 1758 and at Augusta in 1763, and continued to fill that position at the 1770 treaty . I am researching my family tree and I came across the name ADAIR, and I decided to see where it went . Plus you can pull up the Vann Cherokee Indians and it tells you all about them. Can I assume that 'Trade Carpenter' is Amatoya Moytoy? John Watts (or Kunokeski ), also known as Young Tassel, was one of the leaders of the Chickamauga Cherokee (or "Lower Cherokee") during the Cherokee-American wars. Charity did not belong to Blue Sky; there is no reason to believe that she belonged to anyone other than Parker Adkins's wife, Mary. For some, their families were ashamed of their indian heritage and made a point to hide it. I am related through Nanya'hi and her line. I wonder, Cat, have you taken a DNA Test? Thank you . how was attacullaculla and kanastoga both grandfathers of Major ridge andGeneral Stand Watie, Amatoya Moytoy is your 9th great grandfather. 1,645 Followers, 658 Following, 578 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Elizabeth Watts Schrack (@elizabethwatts5) elizabethwatts5. Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first deceive! . DID YOU EVER RECEIVE ONE? Many of the names you listed as relatives are also relatives of mine. The "provable dna" blood-ties via validated lineages and delineations only became re-defined during the time of Native American removal [Trail of Tears for example], and federal rolls for purposes of documenting the Nation, by the US Government, came into effect. Chief Vann had nothing to do with Shoeboots' and his slave Doll's children's separation. It can only tell you if you have a percentage of native american DNA. Thomas 'married' the mixed blood daughter of Col. James Moore, SC Gov, and when he died, Mary Moore Ayres, his wife, gave their son to the White half brother, John Ayres. Son Moses is also a well documented Revolutionary War soldier DAR #A033304, born in Virginia in 1762. I am very proud of being part Cherokee when I was told I had Indian blood I started researching and keep coming up with only partial info and everyone says don't bother its not worth trying to get recognized with a tribe. My tree also indicates that I'm descended from Powhatan & Moytoyhowever, I'm NOT interested in chasing that proof. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? Heather, I will be glad to remove it, but I am not sure which one is yours. finding family on the dawes rolls is hard, because a lot of names you may have pop up, but cherokee nation only accepts names between their 7 year requirement and they had to be living in OK . Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee. Evans, E. Raymond. He is my 10th cousin 7x removed. Under that treaty, the Spanish would provide arms and supplies to the Native Americans to carry on their war against the US. Love finding your site! If you have direct family members listed on The Dawes Rolls would that confirm blood lines? Can the blogger please remove my comment? Wurteh Elizabeth Watts was born in 1750, at birth place, Alabama, to Trader John Capt. She and Joseph are my 4x-grands. Mary Parris Palone was born in Georgia in 1841 and died in Westville, Oklahoma, in 1921 and is buried at the Old Baptist Mission Cemetery there, right across the road from the church (where I was married in 1984). I came across the name Ga Ho Ga, who was born about 1730 in Deer, Newton County, Arkansas and died about 1790 in Rome, Floyd County, Georgia. I have found record of Elizabeth Judd married to Benjimin Pennell burried in Winkler cemetary in Boone, NC. My Grand daughter who is 7, Is very interested an wanted me to look up a few. There is a lot of back and forth on here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.I think many people, especially those that aren't citizens, like the notion of being related to a "chief" in an "indian tribe" as a romantic idea, and what I'm really after is "the truth" about my lineage. I also am from Moytoy and the Copelands. I am trying to verify the name of John L Dean on the Dawes Rolls. From sites like Ancestry & others. She joined the TV station in August 2016 and anchors the network's news on weeknights and also brings the 360 To know my Carpenter Family . I really need to know who they were! Clan: Ani'-W'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. Query: My great great grandmother, Elizabeth Floyd, married a Cherokee man, name unknown. Please email me is any of u share a connection hhokomo@aol.com. Can you please tell me, was Amatoya Moytoy Chief Doublehead's grandfather? His pension application (images on Fold3 at. ) 1 1 1 2 5 3 1 4 1 5: Nancy Ann Ivey. He became war council head, or "skiagusta," of the Lower Cherokee.[3]. I have information back to my great great grandmother and found her parents names once but haven't been able to find them since but the line went back to Pidgeon of Tellico and further back to Motoy(s). I am going to make a trip to oklahoma, not to far , we now live in Arkansas. The following students who have a grade point average of 3.8 to 4.0 were recognized: John "Old Forked Tongue" Watts (1/2 Blood Cherokee). Could we be related? Along the way, the group was attacked by a militant group of frontiersmen during a stop at the Overhill town of Coyatee. Actually The carpenter family can be traced back to people in English Parliment and with in some Bourbon's in French court. Most of my ancestors are from Tennessee. Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. Old Hop and Su-gi had a daughter named Grasshopper and she married David McDaniel a registered Indian trader. White men and women who married Cherokees are then considered to be a member of the tribe. My family has connection through Granny Hopper and Thomas Essary. there are more but this seems like the most likely common to be used, and its what you mentioned as well. I don't see a purpose to it. John Benge [[Benge-104]]: John Benge was a white trader who lived in the Cherokee Nation most of his adult life. News personality. The Cherokee people, along with Watts' Chickmauga warriors, agreed to await the outcome of the subsequent trial. says that he was born in Virginia, moved to North Carolina with his mother, and in May, 1785 at the age of 16 or 17 was forced to serve in the War by a step-father named Fielder. Do you.have an actual family tree showing descendants? Read Watt's account. Here's my direct-lineage proving ancestry.Direct Famial Lineage: Cleopatra Powhatan1590-1641Mother of -> Pride Shawnee1615-1679Mother of -> Amatoya Moytoy1640-1730Father of -> Old Hop Moytoy1690-1761Father of -> Sookie Granny Grasshopper1730-1820Mother of -> Rachel Tookah McDaniel1763-1792Mother of -> Rachel Agnes Tookah Chambers1781-1846Mother of -> William Simon Roland "Billy" Norris1816-1892Father of -> John Roland Norris1853-1903Father of -> James "Jim" Roland Norris1883-1930Father of -> Lucy Jane Norris1908-1986Mother of -> John Earl "Johnny" Jones1945-1978Father of -> Timothy Lavon Mitchell - Jones(Given Name at Birth.
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